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Wow. This is 100% false and misinformation. The initial vaccine was absolutely tested for infection and was based on infection rates, not based on "severity of

Wow. This is 100% false and misinformation. The initial vaccine was absolutely tested for infection and was based on infection rates, not based on "severity of symptoms." They changed the narrative after it was clear that vaccination did not provide protection from infection from variants but did maintain protection from severe symptoms.

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malfist 3y ago
"they" didn't change the narrative. No vaccine prevents an infection. None. Zero. Never happens. The best a vaccine can do is train your immune system to identify and react to the infectious agent before it gains enough of a foothold to impact you. Often, especially if you've been vaccinated with the specific strain that infected you, it can do this before you notice you've been infected. Practically giving you an immunity, but not truly, you still got infected and your immune system still fought it off. For viruses though it's a different story. Viruses mutate, the strain you got vaccinated against may not be the one that enters your body, but the vaccine means your immune system can mount an effective response. In these cases, it significantly reduces risk of hospitalizations and death from the vaccine, but does not mean you won't have some effects from the virus.
- purpleblue 3y ago
  This is another anti-science post trying to spread misinformation about how vaccines work. I suggest you educate yourself more on how all this works before posting more misinformation. > No vaccine prevents an infection. None. Zero. Never happens. As quoted from the CDC: "A new CDC study provides strong evidence that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are highly effective in preventing SARS-CoV-2 infections in real-world conditions among health care personnel, first responders, and other essential workers." https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0329-COVID-19-Vaccines.html#:~:text=CDC%20Newsroom%20Releases-,CDC%20Real%2DWorld%20Study%20Confirms%20Protective,of%20mRNA%20COVID%2D19%20Vaccines&text=A%20new%20CDC%20study%20provides,responders%2C%20and%20other%20essential%20workers https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0329-COVID-19-Vacci.... Here is your entire post in case you try to change it: >"they" didn't change the narrative. >No vaccine prevents an infection. None. Zero. Never happens. >The best a vaccine can do is train your immune system to identify and react to the infectious agent before it gains enough of a foothold to impact you. Often, especially if you've been vaccinated with the specific strain that infected you, it can do this before you notice you've been infected. Practically giving you an immunity, but not truly, you still got infected and your immune system still fought it off. >For viruses though it's a different story. Viruses mutate, the strain you got vaccinated against may not be the one that enters your body, but the vaccine means your immune system can mount an effective response. In these cases, it significantly reduces risk of hospitalizations and death from the vaccine, but does not mean you won't have some effects from the virus.
- cm2187 3y ago
  I understand some vaccines provide sterilizing immunity, others do not. Which is what is causing so much confusion as people are lazily refering to the vaccine "working" or "not working" without specifying what they mean by working.

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malfist 3y ago

"they" didn't change the narrative. No vaccine prevents an infection. None. Zero. Never happens. The best a vaccine can do is train your immune system to identify and react to the infectious agent before it gains enough of a foothold to impact you. Often, especially if you've been vaccinated with the specific strain that infected you, it can do this before you notice you've been infected. Practically giving you an immunity, but not truly, you still got infected and your immune system still fought it off. For viruses though it's a different story. Viruses mutate, the strain you got vaccinated against may not be the one that enters your body, but the vaccine means your immune system can mount an effective response. In these cases, it significantly reduces risk of hospitalizations and death from the vaccine, but does not mean you won't have some effects from the virus.

purpleblue 3y ago
This is another anti-science post trying to spread misinformation about how vaccines work. I suggest you educate yourself more on how all this works before posting more misinformation. > No vaccine prevents an infection. None. Zero. Never happens. As quoted from the CDC: "A new CDC study provides strong evidence that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are highly effective in preventing SARS-CoV-2 infections in real-world conditions among health care personnel, first responders, and other essential workers." https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0329-COVID-19-Vaccines.html#:~:text=CDC%20Newsroom%20Releases-,CDC%20Real%2DWorld%20Study%20Confirms%20Protective,of%20mRNA%20COVID%2D19%20Vaccines&text=A%20new%20CDC%20study%20provides,responders%2C%20and%20other%20essential%20workers https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0329-COVID-19-Vacci.... Here is your entire post in case you try to change it: >"they" didn't change the narrative. >No vaccine prevents an infection. None. Zero. Never happens. >The best a vaccine can do is train your immune system to identify and react to the infectious agent before it gains enough of a foothold to impact you. Often, especially if you've been vaccinated with the specific strain that infected you, it can do this before you notice you've been infected. Practically giving you an immunity, but not truly, you still got infected and your immune system still fought it off. >For viruses though it's a different story. Viruses mutate, the strain you got vaccinated against may not be the one that enters your body, but the vaccine means your immune system can mount an effective response. In these cases, it significantly reduces risk of hospitalizations and death from the vaccine, but does not mean you won't have some effects from the virus.
cm2187 3y ago
I understand some vaccines provide sterilizing immunity, others do not. Which is what is causing so much confusion as people are lazily refering to the vaccine "working" or "not working" without specifying what they mean by working.