> What I'm saying is that the perception of that universe depends entirely on our senses. And there is a right way to perceive it, and a wrong way to perceive

> What I'm saying is that the perception of that universe depends entirely on our senses. And there is a right way to perceive it, and a wrong way to perceive it. > After all, to a blind person, the universe appears much differently. And? They still perceive the senses they can still access accurately. > In that same vein, altering our senses by taking various substances expands our perception of the universe in a way a person who doesn't will never experience. I agree except replace "expand" with "confuses". It makes our perception of reality incorrect. > My point is that choosing to do so or not is fine, and neither is better than the other. One is objectively better than another. Try driving a car on a strong LSD trip. You can't, because it isn't allowing you to have an accurate perception of reality. > So my objection is to your claim that the people who do make that choice are deluding themselves, or not experiencing "true" reality. You haven't adequately justified your objection.