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I’m shopping for anything EV other than a Tesla now. There are many options now, but Tesla is still way ahead with the power train. Most competitors aren’t at t

I’m shopping for anything EV other than a Tesla now. There are many options now, but Tesla is still way ahead with the power train. Most competitors aren’t at the same place on range & performance yet. It’s an amazing power train glued inside a 90s-era Oldsmobile.

stef25 3y ago
Mercedes EQ ?
- SauciestGNU 3y ago
  Beautiful car and great competition against the Model S. I've been ogling one at the dealership I bike past regularly.
zamalek 3y ago
The Mach E has a mere 40mi less range (290mi) and slightly better performance than the Model Y. They are also adding support for NACS (Tesla charger port) at some point soon. That's the only comparable EV that I know of at the price point, but there's definitely more.
- Reubachi 3y ago
  Ford can't sell Mach Es to save their life, though, because they don't have ludicrous mode/800 HP/name appeal. Massive flop from Ford (and I say that as the biggest ford fanboy in this thread.) You and I know that the ford is made much better for "less", for obvious reasons But ask yourself, who is going to buy a heavy electric SUV from Ford? -a typical mustang GT buyer? No way. -a person who currently has a model S/Y/3? fat chance. -a new EV buyer? Too expensive and "bland". Does all EV things "middle". -A ford Fan? I'll gladly take the f150 lightning over mustang. I want to see the f150 lightning and similar really make a dent/impression.
  - stapedium 3y ago
    Target market for the MachE is explorer and escape owners looking at EVs. Lightning and MachE aren’t anywhere close to the same price point. # of MachEs at local dealer = 3 # of F150s sitting on lot >1 month = 50-100
  - zamalek 3y ago
    You missed the "I want a get from A to B SUV, without Tesla" - which is squarely me. The type of shit in the article, right to repair, and general Elon bullshit has me very uninterested in Tesla. > -a new EV buyer? Too expensive and "bland". Does all EV things "middle". It is actually SUV-sized (unlike the likes of the Kona, which you may be comparing it to - it is only shaped like an SUV). It can be cheaper than the Model Y, depending on the sku - and those two are the only budget EV SUVs that I am aware of (the E-Tron and iX are significantly more expensive). Bland? Who cares. There are people who only care about the utility that a vehicle has to offer. It is servicing an area of the market that only has one other deeply incompetent (as-per the article) competitor.
philistine 3y ago
I’m very hopeful that in five years time, Tesla has been so thoroughly lapped by the rest of the car industry that they have to start closing some of their gigafactories. I’d bet good money on that.
- Corrado 3y ago
  I love my Tesla and I too hope that other automakers get better at producing EVs. Competition is great and the whole world wins when everyone gets better. I'm looking forward to being able to get an electric Audi, Volvo, VW, etc. and be confident that the software, updates, charging infrastructure, etc. is be better than Tesla's system. That day is not today, but I hope it's soon.
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OkayPhysicist 3y ago
I'm a big fan of my Chevy Bolt. ~250 miles range is plenty for commuting and making day trips to friends and whatnot. Any further than that and I'd want to fly, anyway.
- barfingclouds 3y ago
  It makes me so happy that Chevy decided to no longer discontinue the Bolt. I’m both poor and currently very happy with my current car (ford cmax). But once this guy’s life is over, I’m looking to a bolt next. Or if Tesla has the rumored Model 2 out by then I’ll consider that as well.

stef25 3y ago

Mercedes EQ ?

SauciestGNU 3y ago
Beautiful car and great competition against the Model S. I've been ogling one at the dealership I bike past regularly.

zamalek 3y ago

The Mach E has a mere 40mi less range (290mi) and slightly better performance than the Model Y. They are also adding support for NACS (Tesla charger port) at some point soon. That's the only comparable EV that I know of at the price point, but there's definitely more.

Reubachi 3y ago
Ford can't sell Mach Es to save their life, though, because they don't have ludicrous mode/800 HP/name appeal. Massive flop from Ford (and I say that as the biggest ford fanboy in this thread.) You and I know that the ford is made much better for "less", for obvious reasons But ask yourself, who is going to buy a heavy electric SUV from Ford? -a typical mustang GT buyer? No way. -a person who currently has a model S/Y/3? fat chance. -a new EV buyer? Too expensive and "bland". Does all EV things "middle". -A ford Fan? I'll gladly take the f150 lightning over mustang. I want to see the f150 lightning and similar really make a dent/impression.
- stapedium 3y ago
  Target market for the MachE is explorer and escape owners looking at EVs. Lightning and MachE aren’t anywhere close to the same price point. # of MachEs at local dealer = 3 # of F150s sitting on lot >1 month = 50-100
- zamalek 3y ago
  You missed the "I want a get from A to B SUV, without Tesla" - which is squarely me. The type of shit in the article, right to repair, and general Elon bullshit has me very uninterested in Tesla. > -a new EV buyer? Too expensive and "bland". Does all EV things "middle". It is actually SUV-sized (unlike the likes of the Kona, which you may be comparing it to - it is only shaped like an SUV). It can be cheaper than the Model Y, depending on the sku - and those two are the only budget EV SUVs that I am aware of (the E-Tron and iX are significantly more expensive). Bland? Who cares. There are people who only care about the utility that a vehicle has to offer. It is servicing an area of the market that only has one other deeply incompetent (as-per the article) competitor.

philistine 3y ago

I’m very hopeful that in five years time, Tesla has been so thoroughly lapped by the rest of the car industry that they have to start closing some of their gigafactories. I’d bet good money on that.

Corrado 3y ago
I love my Tesla and I too hope that other automakers get better at producing EVs. Competition is great and the whole world wins when everyone gets better. I'm looking forward to being able to get an electric Audi, Volvo, VW, etc. and be confident that the software, updates, charging infrastructure, etc. is be better than Tesla's system. That day is not today, but I hope it's soon.

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OkayPhysicist 3y ago

I'm a big fan of my Chevy Bolt. ~250 miles range is plenty for commuting and making day trips to friends and whatnot. Any further than that and I'd want to fly, anyway.

barfingclouds 3y ago
It makes me so happy that Chevy decided to no longer discontinue the Bolt. I’m both poor and currently very happy with my current car (ford cmax). But once this guy’s life is over, I’m looking to a bolt next. Or if Tesla has the rumored Model 2 out by then I’ll consider that as well.