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I've heard other cases like this in Asia, where some people ate raw snake meat (ie sushi style), which was considered delicacies, and one man ended up with para

I've heard other cases like this in Asia, where some people ate raw snake meat (ie sushi style), which was considered delicacies, and one man ended up with parasite in his lungs and was on TV news. Another case was in US where a boy ate pork that was not fully cooked and ended up with parasite in his brain. Since then, I'm very careful to make sure all pork are fully cooked (especially at barbeque).

WeylandYutani 3y ago
This is why I prefer my meat well done.
ideamotor 3y ago
Wtf
- knz 3y ago
  https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/taeniasis/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/taeniasis/index.html It's from raw/undercooked pork and beef.
  - FredPret 3y ago
    Wow. I just turned into a well-done steak lover.
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leetrout 3y ago
> in US where a boy ate pork that was not fully cooked and ended up with parasite in his brain Do you have a source? It is my understanding that pork in the US is very safe since the late 2000's (or maybe even earlier).
- mikequinlan 3y ago
  Here is one from the UK in 2019 https://news.sky.com/story/man-18-dies-from-tapeworm-larvae-in-his-brain-after-eating-pork-11681211 https://news.sky.com/story/man-18-dies-from-tapeworm-larvae-...
  - leetrout 3y ago
    Nope, Faridabad, India
- tomtheelder 3y ago
  It is very safe, but that doesn’t mean the risk is zero. The fact that stories like that have become major news stories kind of illustrates how unusual it is these days.
  - leetrout 3y ago
    Agree and this is why I would like a source because I would expect it to have been national news.
Cthulhu_ 3y ago
Yeeeeah there's plenty of stories about raw meat like that unfortunately. We had (have?) a scare too; at christmas our company did a fancy gala dinner party, and the starter was a fish tartare of sorts. A few days later my GF had diarrhea, turns out there's a parasite in that type of fish that causes it days later.
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- arcticbull 3y ago
  > We had (have?) a scare too; at christmas our company did a fancy gala dinner party, and the starter was a fish tartare of sorts. A few days later my GF had diarrhea, turns out there's a parasite in that type of fish that causes it days later. It's safe to assume all fish are a parasite risk (for instance due to nematode worms or cod worms) - with the notable exception of tuna, and most farmed salmon. However! In the US, all non-tuna fish is required to be frozen to -4F for at least 7 days or -31F for 15 hours to kill parasites. [1] You can make sushi - or tartare - out of any US frozen fish. If you caught parasites it would have either been fresh fish, which (except for tuna) is never ok to use according to the FDA - or the cold chain was improperly maintained. In either case it could even be worth a report to local health authorities. However tartare or ceviche or any other kind of raw fish preparation in the US is safe if it's made from tuna or (properly) frozen fish. [1] https://www.fda.gov/files/food/published/Fish-and-Fishery-Products-Hazards-and-Controls-Guidance-Chapter-5-Download.pdf https://www.fda.gov/files/food/published/Fish-and-Fishery-Pr...
  - kijin 3y ago
    Is there a reason why tuna is specifically called out as an exception? I would imagine that tuna, being near the top of the food chain, would accumulate an awful lot of things in their bodies, not just mercury as commonly feared.
    - arcticbull 3y ago
      Weird eh? My understanding is tuna don't get parasites as often. I read about it here. [1] > Exempted from the FDA's freezing requirements are, as Herron mentions, large species of tuna—deemed safe based on the frequency with which they are eaten in raw form and the infrequency of related, documented parasitic infection—as well as aquacultured fish, like salmon, given verification that the feed it's raised on is parasite-free. > To meet FDA guidelines, every other type of fish must be frozen to those temperatures, even if the table does not indicate that it carries a parasite risk, because it "may have a parasite hazard that has not been identified if these fish are not customarily consumed raw or undercooked." [1] https://www.seriouseats.com/how-to-prepare-raw-fish-at-home-sushi-sashimi-food-safety https://www.seriouseats.com/how-to-prepare-raw-fish-at-home-...
anonyfox 3y ago
As a vegetarian, I also ensure to wash my food. Much less to worry about than meat, though.
- pessimizer 3y ago
  There's a lot more to worry about with the cleanliness of vegetables than whole pieces of meat (ground beef is a different story.) Of course, the worry with vegetables comes indirectly from animals (as feces) and because they tend to be prepared at lower temperatures than meat and eaten raw more often.
arcticbull 3y ago
The main parasite from raw pork was trichinosis, but that's not really a thing anymore in the US. Not since the FDA mandated that you can't feed as much literal raw meat garbage to pigs in the 70s. [edit: Swine Health Protection Act, 1980] You can still get hepatitis E, among other things, from raw pork though so you know, be careful. Some high-end restaurants are serving raw pork now though [1], but personally, I wouldn't - and I'm an adventurous eater. [1] https://www.seriouseats.com/case-for-raw-rare-pink-pork-food-safety https://www.seriouseats.com/case-for-raw-rare-pink-pork-food...
- bluefirebrand 3y ago
  There's a risk of e.coli from undercooked pork too from what I understand. Or at least, that's most likely how I got e.coli back in 2016 or so. Undercooked pork from a pork roast at a wedding.
  - arcticbull 3y ago
    Yeah, salmonella too. > Based on analysis of U.S. foodborne disease outbreaks, pork may be responsible for between 8 and 13 percent of roughly 1 million foodborne human salmonellosis cases each year. [1] [1] https://www.fsis.usda.gov/news-events/publications/pork-salmonella-performance-standards-risk-assessment-april-8-2020-feb-8 https://www.fsis.usda.gov/news-events/publications/pork-salm...
- baal80spam 3y ago
  I wouldn't say it's VERY popular but it's a quite popular "sausage type" in Germany and Poland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mett https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mett
  - lo_zamoyski 3y ago
    Ah, yes, metka is quite delicious. Perhaps the curing and smoking might somewhat reduce whatever risk remains today?
    - 3y ago
datavirtue 3y ago
I'm down with the Bible on this one. No pork for me. I cooked a pork chop when I was very young and came back to find many worms trying to escape as it cooked. This is the default for pork and is considered mitigated by certain drugs that must be given to the pigs. And yes, large worms have been pulled from people's brains in the US--resulting from pork. They appeared to have displaced or feasted on brain matter. I don't need pork.

WeylandYutani 3y ago

This is why I prefer my meat well done.

ideamotor 3y ago

Wtf

knz 3y ago
https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/taeniasis/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/taeniasis/index.html It's from raw/undercooked pork and beef.
- FredPret 3y ago
  Wow. I just turned into a well-done steak lover.
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leetrout 3y ago

> in US where a boy ate pork that was not fully cooked and ended up with parasite in his brain Do you have a source? It is my understanding that pork in the US is very safe since the late 2000's (or maybe even earlier).

mikequinlan 3y ago
Here is one from the UK in 2019 https://news.sky.com/story/man-18-dies-from-tapeworm-larvae-in-his-brain-after-eating-pork-11681211 https://news.sky.com/story/man-18-dies-from-tapeworm-larvae-...
- leetrout 3y ago
  Nope, Faridabad, India
tomtheelder 3y ago
It is very safe, but that doesn’t mean the risk is zero. The fact that stories like that have become major news stories kind of illustrates how unusual it is these days.
- leetrout 3y ago
  Agree and this is why I would like a source because I would expect it to have been national news.

Cthulhu_ 3y ago

Yeeeeah there's plenty of stories about raw meat like that unfortunately. We had (have?) a scare too; at christmas our company did a fancy gala dinner party, and the starter was a fish tartare of sorts. A few days later my GF had diarrhea, turns out there's a parasite in that type of fish that causes it days later.

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arcticbull 3y ago
> We had (have?) a scare too; at christmas our company did a fancy gala dinner party, and the starter was a fish tartare of sorts. A few days later my GF had diarrhea, turns out there's a parasite in that type of fish that causes it days later. It's safe to assume all fish are a parasite risk (for instance due to nematode worms or cod worms) - with the notable exception of tuna, and most farmed salmon. However! In the US, all non-tuna fish is required to be frozen to -4F for at least 7 days or -31F for 15 hours to kill parasites. [1] You can make sushi - or tartare - out of any US frozen fish. If you caught parasites it would have either been fresh fish, which (except for tuna) is never ok to use according to the FDA - or the cold chain was improperly maintained. In either case it could even be worth a report to local health authorities. However tartare or ceviche or any other kind of raw fish preparation in the US is safe if it's made from tuna or (properly) frozen fish. [1] https://www.fda.gov/files/food/published/Fish-and-Fishery-Products-Hazards-and-Controls-Guidance-Chapter-5-Download.pdf https://www.fda.gov/files/food/published/Fish-and-Fishery-Pr...
- kijin 3y ago
  Is there a reason why tuna is specifically called out as an exception? I would imagine that tuna, being near the top of the food chain, would accumulate an awful lot of things in their bodies, not just mercury as commonly feared.
  - arcticbull 3y ago
    Weird eh? My understanding is tuna don't get parasites as often. I read about it here. [1] > Exempted from the FDA's freezing requirements are, as Herron mentions, large species of tuna—deemed safe based on the frequency with which they are eaten in raw form and the infrequency of related, documented parasitic infection—as well as aquacultured fish, like salmon, given verification that the feed it's raised on is parasite-free. > To meet FDA guidelines, every other type of fish must be frozen to those temperatures, even if the table does not indicate that it carries a parasite risk, because it "may have a parasite hazard that has not been identified if these fish are not customarily consumed raw or undercooked." [1] https://www.seriouseats.com/how-to-prepare-raw-fish-at-home-sushi-sashimi-food-safety https://www.seriouseats.com/how-to-prepare-raw-fish-at-home-...

anonyfox 3y ago

As a vegetarian, I also ensure to wash my food. Much less to worry about than meat, though.

pessimizer 3y ago
There's a lot more to worry about with the cleanliness of vegetables than whole pieces of meat (ground beef is a different story.) Of course, the worry with vegetables comes indirectly from animals (as feces) and because they tend to be prepared at lower temperatures than meat and eaten raw more often.

arcticbull 3y ago

The main parasite from raw pork was trichinosis, but that's not really a thing anymore in the US. Not since the FDA mandated that you can't feed as much literal raw meat garbage to pigs in the 70s. [edit: Swine Health Protection Act, 1980] You can still get hepatitis E, among other things, from raw pork though so you know, be careful. Some high-end restaurants are serving raw pork now though [1], but personally, I wouldn't - and I'm an adventurous eater. [1] https://www.seriouseats.com/case-for-raw-rare-pink-pork-food-safety https://www.seriouseats.com/case-for-raw-rare-pink-pork-food...

bluefirebrand 3y ago
There's a risk of e.coli from undercooked pork too from what I understand. Or at least, that's most likely how I got e.coli back in 2016 or so. Undercooked pork from a pork roast at a wedding.
- arcticbull 3y ago
  Yeah, salmonella too. > Based on analysis of U.S. foodborne disease outbreaks, pork may be responsible for between 8 and 13 percent of roughly 1 million foodborne human salmonellosis cases each year. [1] [1] https://www.fsis.usda.gov/news-events/publications/pork-salmonella-performance-standards-risk-assessment-april-8-2020-feb-8 https://www.fsis.usda.gov/news-events/publications/pork-salm...
baal80spam 3y ago
I wouldn't say it's VERY popular but it's a quite popular "sausage type" in Germany and Poland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mett https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mett
- lo_zamoyski 3y ago
  Ah, yes, metka is quite delicious. Perhaps the curing and smoking might somewhat reduce whatever risk remains today?
  - 3y ago

datavirtue 3y ago

I'm down with the Bible on this one. No pork for me. I cooked a pork chop when I was very young and came back to find many worms trying to escape as it cooked. This is the default for pork and is considered mitigated by certain drugs that must be given to the pigs. And yes, large worms have been pulled from people's brains in the US--resulting from pork. They appeared to have displaced or feasted on brain matter. I don't need pork.