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What response?
by amedvednikov 3y ago
What response?
- pwdisswordfishc 3y agoTypical example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37293919 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37293919
- amedvednikov 3y ago> If you've been dreaming about a language like this, give it a try. Spend 20 minutes on it, and form your opinion. > I'm sure you'll like it! And what's wrong with this comment?
- lifthrasiir 3y ago> There are no false or misleading claims, only in the articles from authors who say "V must die". I'd like you to elaborate on this instead. Were there many articles with explicit death threats?
- amedvednikov 3y agoYou consider the phrase "[lang] must die" a death threat? Only the author of the vaporware articles said that, AFAIK.
- lifthrasiir 3y agoIf that article hasn't been changed since the publication, the strongest statement is "as it stands I recommend against using it for anything" AFIAK, and it is far from saying "it must die". She even gave many suggestions for improvement, some of which are shared with mine. I think you are reading too much from those criticisms.
- amedvednikov 3y agoThe author said "V must die" in an HN comment here long after posting the articles.
- lifthrasiir 3y agoI failed to locate such a comment. And even if there was one and got removed later, the last known position is that she regret to write an article that can be perceived as toxic, no matter her intent [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31954082 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31954082
- amedvednikov 3y agoYou maybe failed to find it, yet it exists: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27442724 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27442724
- lifthrasiir 3y agoThank you for the explicit pointer (I searched for "die" already, but it seems that "dies" was not stemmed). And yet it is not same to "V should die"; it is rather V "should be ignored until it dies into obscurity". It is no different from "do not feed the trolls"---if V fails to prove to be something viable there would be no reason to make comments at all. And that comment predates her last position anyway, so I still think you are reading too much.
- amedvednikov 3y agoIn this comment the author says V is a scam, and should be ignored until it dies. The position is clear. It's hardly unbiased.
- lifthrasiir 3y agoCome on. She was already aware that it is not literally ("kind of") a scam, but pointing out that there is a parallel ("if you sell someone the moon and give them a block of cheese", I believe advertisements were not yet fulfilled in 2021). If she was meant to mercilessly bash V why did she rather mention "there are good ideas there" and give suggestions for improvement?
- richbell 3y ago> > If you've been dreaming about a language like this, give it a try. Spend 20 minutes on it, and form your opinion. > > I'm sure you'll like it! > And what's wrong with this comment? It's interesting how you deliberately avoided quoting part of the comment. One could potentially interpret that as you being deliberately misleading.
- amedvednikov 3y agoAnd what's wrong with the first part of the comment?
- richbell 3y agoThat's my question to you. Why did you omit the first part in your quote?