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Culturally normalized cheating. Also gives advantage to those with rich parents who can afford the time.
by teddyh 3y ago
Culturally normalized cheating. Also gives advantage to those with rich parents who can afford the time.
- consoomer 3y agoIt's cheating to help a 7 year old understand how to do basic math? Because the alternative is them staring at a paper and writing random numbers down.
- p1esk 3y agoSo what do they do in school all day?
- ghaff 3y agoBecause everyone has personalized tutors at school.
- p1esk 3y agoI didn't have tutors or parents helping me with homework when I was in school. Also, bad grades were not tolerated in my household, so I had to keep up.
- blogornot 3y agoYou had a household where bad grades were not tolerated, but no support in achieving better grades? Sounds like a crappy household/parenting. That doesn't mean everyone else should have a crappy household or parenting philosophy because you managed to get through it.
- barry-cotter 3y agoThey are exposed to the material on which the sorting and ranking will be done.
- melagonster 3y agoI do not call this is cheating. but this is a crazy advantage of children. some kids never learned learning is important, parents can let deep in their mind. teachers have some chance, but there are too many kids in classroom.
- granshaw 3y agoThe alternative is, you know, the school actually teaching well enough that they understand it without your help
- teddyh 3y agoThe understanding should happen in school. Homework should be only for things that have already been learned.
- ghaff 3y agoIf the learning is already complete then any homework seems like utterly unnecessary busywork.
- teddyh 3y agoThere’s learning, and there’s practice. Both are necessary.
- ResearchCode 3y agoPractice during school hours is more than enough. Primary education is not so demanding that you need more to succeed.
- teddyh 3y agoIn which case homework should be wholly unnecessary.
- ResearchCode 3y agoIt is, unless you spend too much time in a lecture format with too little deep practice. Taking work home is not a good solution.
- liotier 3y agoIt sure would be nice and just if the schools had the means to provide the personalized tutoring most children need to understand. Reality is that the parents do that - and yes, it is an advantage to children with parents able to invest time and skills in their education.
- flippinburgers 3y agoI found the person who doesn't have kids. Nothing about helping someone better understand something is cheating. Helping your own child? That is just natural. I find what you said revolting.
- teddyh 3y agoIf parents “help” kids with homework, the teacher will get a misleading view of what the kid has learned and is capable of. Other kids, lacking this “help”, will get worse grades. If you want to argue that the teacher understands that parents are helping their kids with the homework, then: 1. Why aren’t teachers sending study aids, pedagogical material, etc. to the parents, on order to aid in the further education of the kids? Why are teachers universally acting as though kids are supposed to do the homework on their own? 2. This would still only help kids with rich parent who can afford the time to be a part-time teacher to their kids. In summary: If teachers assume that kids do all their homework themselves, unassisted, then “helping” is (culturally normalized) cheating. If teachers instead assume that kids get help from their parents, it would be burdening kids with poor and/or busy parents with a severe disadvantage.
- hyggetrold 3y agoHow old are you, which country do you live in, and...do you yourself have children?
- teddyh 3y agoI don’t want to feed your Ad Hominem monster. Find some actual arguments in the debate as presented.
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- hyggetrold 3y agoYou're funny. Good luck.