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I wouldn't call it harassment. It's clear it's just easier to catch the vets because they also lied to the VA. I admit they VA has it short comings. But there m

I wouldn't call it harassment. It's clear it's just easier to catch the vets because they also lied to the VA. I admit they VA has it short comings. But there more vets in need then there are not,embellishing your condition to get more benefits is dishonorable. What's not surprising is pilots who lie about their health to keep making money. Especially in this economy.

Geisterde 3y ago
Dishonorable? Lying us into wars is dishonorable. Stop putting government bureaucrats in charge of so much money, its obvious they can't spend it appropriately, I could get a hell of a lot more bang for my buck out of spending my own money.
- snapcaster 3y ago
  I'm very personally against the war state and general US imperialism but I don't think the "bang for your buck" argument is necessarily true. I couldn't personally secure alliances with or occupations of oil rich nations that allow for me to have access to extremely cheap energy. I think I benefit from it, but that doesn't make it just
  - Geisterde 3y ago
    Why can't a business like exxon secure contracts for your oil? You benefit from the government doing it on a first order where the worlds oil is priced in your native currency, secondary effects may include the world hating you, the destruction of domestic production, your cultural traditions fading into obscurity, corruption, the joining of political and corporate interests. Ask your doctor before taking.
    - pc86 3y ago
      What do you mean by "secure contracts" in this context?
      - Geisterde 3y ago
        Exxon signs a contract with oil producers in Iraq or Saudi Arabia, Exxon pays them for the oil and those countries provide it, they put it on a boat and ship it to the US, the put it in a gas station and sell it to you by the gallon.
- birdyrooster 3y ago
  No I rather like that you are required to give some of your income back to the whole of society, it's a good practice to not be so closed and isolated.
  - Geisterde 3y ago
    Why do I need to be required? I give money to people who do good things without being required, and I'd give a lot more if I had more money. Build good FOSS and I'll send you some money, make a meme that advances the culture, I'll send you some money, down on your luck I'll send you some money, even when I was broke I'd send friends money if it meant I was rationing ramen and beans. The idea that people won't help each other out without being required seems like projection, and before there was an income tax we still had roads, rails, schools/colleges, and a military, so the idea that we need this might seem obvious, but history does not prove it out.
- millzlane 3y ago
  I can't argue with that. You've make good points. Both my parents were vets and I was in ROTC and civil air patrol for many years.
pc86 3y ago
"This economy" is doing pretty great at the moment. Inflation down, market up, jobs for basically anyone reading this forum are available, unless you confuse "literally being thrown at you from all angles" with unavailable. Have you ever dealt with the VA? They will lie, cheat, and steal to deny benefits at any and all opportunities. Not saying that that makes lying to them or the government right, but how many people need to draw a straight line from their work on the deck of an aircraft carrier and their permanent hearing loss, or similar very obvious conditions, only to have the VA say "Not Service Connected" and deny all claims? It's no wonder you have people go to coaching before every VA meeting to know what keywords will get their claim denied or fast-tracked.
- millzlane 3y ago
  My mom is a vet and 1 of 2 that I'm a caregiver for. So yea, I've dealt with them. I have 45 days of vacation saved to deal with their crap. Luckily my mom gets transportation benefits that helps. I can't argue with why they do it. It's survival. I just know instead of working/gaming the system, we need to change it.

Geisterde 3y ago

Dishonorable? Lying us into wars is dishonorable. Stop putting government bureaucrats in charge of so much money, its obvious they can't spend it appropriately, I could get a hell of a lot more bang for my buck out of spending my own money.

snapcaster 3y ago
I'm very personally against the war state and general US imperialism but I don't think the "bang for your buck" argument is necessarily true. I couldn't personally secure alliances with or occupations of oil rich nations that allow for me to have access to extremely cheap energy. I think I benefit from it, but that doesn't make it just
- Geisterde 3y ago
  Why can't a business like exxon secure contracts for your oil? You benefit from the government doing it on a first order where the worlds oil is priced in your native currency, secondary effects may include the world hating you, the destruction of domestic production, your cultural traditions fading into obscurity, corruption, the joining of political and corporate interests. Ask your doctor before taking.
  - pc86 3y ago
    What do you mean by "secure contracts" in this context?
    - Geisterde 3y ago
      Exxon signs a contract with oil producers in Iraq or Saudi Arabia, Exxon pays them for the oil and those countries provide it, they put it on a boat and ship it to the US, the put it in a gas station and sell it to you by the gallon.
birdyrooster 3y ago
No I rather like that you are required to give some of your income back to the whole of society, it's a good practice to not be so closed and isolated.
- Geisterde 3y ago
  Why do I need to be required? I give money to people who do good things without being required, and I'd give a lot more if I had more money. Build good FOSS and I'll send you some money, make a meme that advances the culture, I'll send you some money, down on your luck I'll send you some money, even when I was broke I'd send friends money if it meant I was rationing ramen and beans. The idea that people won't help each other out without being required seems like projection, and before there was an income tax we still had roads, rails, schools/colleges, and a military, so the idea that we need this might seem obvious, but history does not prove it out.
millzlane 3y ago
I can't argue with that. You've make good points. Both my parents were vets and I was in ROTC and civil air patrol for many years.

pc86 3y ago

"This economy" is doing pretty great at the moment. Inflation down, market up, jobs for basically anyone reading this forum are available, unless you confuse "literally being thrown at you from all angles" with unavailable. Have you ever dealt with the VA? They will lie, cheat, and steal to deny benefits at any and all opportunities. Not saying that that makes lying to them or the government right, but how many people need to draw a straight line from their work on the deck of an aircraft carrier and their permanent hearing loss, or similar very obvious conditions, only to have the VA say "Not Service Connected" and deny all claims? It's no wonder you have people go to coaching before every VA meeting to know what keywords will get their claim denied or fast-tracked.

millzlane 3y ago
My mom is a vet and 1 of 2 that I'm a caregiver for. So yea, I've dealt with them. I have 45 days of vacation saved to deal with their crap. Luckily my mom gets transportation benefits that helps. I can't argue with why they do it. It's survival. I just know instead of working/gaming the system, we need to change it.