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Capricorn2481 3y ago
This is a completely deranged and disgusting partisan rant, and paints a much rosier picture of what reproduction throughout most of history was like. If you think sexual exploitation is only enabled by contraception, you have completely drank the Kool aid. It is also laughable to claim this is actually the take that doesn't patronize women. I can assure you plenty of people have slept around throughout history, it's just that the men would abandon their children. Contraception has saved women from the diseases and consequences of the predatory men in their life The weird stuff about sexual confusion is also unwarranted. You might think this is a measured take, but it's Q-ANON level nutso.
- yamazakiwi 3y ago
  >Gen-Z are fapping in their parents basements. Yeah this person is not living in reality. I don't believe any modern argument framed around generations are poignant, accurate, or worth discussing seriously. People just use this pop-topic to signal, its so boring. These conversations are brimming with generalizations and bias.
kibwen 3y ago
This is preposterous. If people want to have children, they are free not to use contraception. To suggest that demographic decline is a bad thing while also suggesting that it is due to people voluntarily not having children would be to suggest that people should be forced against their will to have children, which is horrifying.
yamazakiwi 3y ago
>notice how many Westerners today respond to big families; instead of joy, it is often disgust or horror I don't want to live in a world where everyone is forced to be excited that you wanted spread your seed 10 times. Bringing more mouths into the world is not automatically incredible, magical, or special. A lot of people showcase cynicism towards family life because family is a very personal thing, no one should be expected to jump for joy except hopefully the family, friends, or small community.
thantsh 3y ago
I'm unsure as to what extent I agree or disagree with your viewpoint, but I appreciate reading an alternative perspective to the more mainstream ones expressed in this thread. These are the type of thought-provoking comments that I visit HN for. Just wanted to give you some positive feedback amidst all the knee-jerk negative reactions.
- yamazakiwi 3y ago
  I guess conspiracy theory can be thought provoking.

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This is a completely deranged and disgusting partisan rant, and paints a much rosier picture of what reproduction throughout most of history was like. If you think sexual exploitation is only enabled by contraception, you have completely drank the Kool aid. It is also laughable to claim this is actually the take that doesn't patronize women. I can assure you plenty of people have slept around throughout history, it's just that the men would abandon their children. Contraception has saved women from the diseases and consequences of the predatory men in their life The weird stuff about sexual confusion is also unwarranted. You might think this is a measured take, but it's Q-ANON level nutso.

yamazakiwi 3y ago
>Gen-Z are fapping in their parents basements. Yeah this person is not living in reality. I don't believe any modern argument framed around generations are poignant, accurate, or worth discussing seriously. People just use this pop-topic to signal, its so boring. These conversations are brimming with generalizations and bias.

kibwen 3y ago

This is preposterous. If people want to have children, they are free not to use contraception. To suggest that demographic decline is a bad thing while also suggesting that it is due to people voluntarily not having children would be to suggest that people should be forced against their will to have children, which is horrifying.

yamazakiwi 3y ago

>notice how many Westerners today respond to big families; instead of joy, it is often disgust or horror I don't want to live in a world where everyone is forced to be excited that you wanted spread your seed 10 times. Bringing more mouths into the world is not automatically incredible, magical, or special. A lot of people showcase cynicism towards family life because family is a very personal thing, no one should be expected to jump for joy except hopefully the family, friends, or small community.

thantsh 3y ago

I'm unsure as to what extent I agree or disagree with your viewpoint, but I appreciate reading an alternative perspective to the more mainstream ones expressed in this thread. These are the type of thought-provoking comments that I visit HN for. Just wanted to give you some positive feedback amidst all the knee-jerk negative reactions.

yamazakiwi 3y ago
I guess conspiracy theory can be thought provoking.