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It's great to see a deep analysis like this. Recently Community Notes has been opened up to a significant enough % of the Twitter populous that you're starting

It's great to see a deep analysis like this. Recently Community Notes has been opened up to a significant enough % of the Twitter populous that you're starting to see a very large quantity of "spurious" notes (argumentative / sarcastic responses that aren't addressing facts - more appropriate as actual replies), with even one or two examples of such notes being approved, in many cases I'd guess because approvers found them entertaining rather than useful. That's lead to criticisms of CN as something "in decline". I hope that's not the case - spurious notes don't actually do any harm (and are often very entertaining), but dismissal of CN as a system would: loss of reputation would mean a dilution of the impact of fact checks & context provision on rebutting misinformation. Another possible concern is, while it seems obvious to most that CN isn't a feature that would have been conceived under Musk, and it's interesting to see it continue to thrive now, one wonders how long it will be tolerated (the example from the first screenshot in this article is telling). In possibly related news, Musk has recently shown an interest in influencing elections[0] in Ireland (Twitter EU HQ) in direct response to talks of EU "misinformation regulation". [0] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1695545217133490453 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1695545217133490453 (Gript Media is a far-right publication based in Ireland)

2795dhh 3y ago
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- lucideer 3y ago
  The use of the word "censor" is a very common misdirect by those who want to control narratives to dismiss any attempts to regulate their control. From Musk's perspective, "free speech" is speech he has exclusive censorship rights over, as an individual, rather than any democratic body. In reality speech can only ever be as free as platform owners' intend it to be (be that platform digital, trad private media, or even state broadcast) - Musk takes issue with EU citizens having a say in his level of control over such speech. I'd recommmend interrogating anyone's use of the word "censor" to see what their own record of "censorship" is - everything is mediated/controlled/"censored" in some way by someone (Google filter bubble, etc.) - the only question is the democratisation of access to such controls. Community Notes may be more efficient than "bureaucrats" but I can't see any evidence that it's more accurate - it will almost certainly be more short-lived.
2795dhh 3y ago
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nvm0n2 3y ago
> while it seems obvious to most that CN isn't a feature that would have been conceived under Musk This isn't obvious at all. A big part of why Musk got upset with Twitter under its previous management was his dislike of centralized journalist-driven fact checking. He might not have come up with the algorithm but you can't claim it's living on borrowed time whilst simultaneously criticizing it for scaling up too fast.

2795dhh 3y ago

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lucideer 3y ago
The use of the word "censor" is a very common misdirect by those who want to control narratives to dismiss any attempts to regulate their control. From Musk's perspective, "free speech" is speech he has exclusive censorship rights over, as an individual, rather than any democratic body. In reality speech can only ever be as free as platform owners' intend it to be (be that platform digital, trad private media, or even state broadcast) - Musk takes issue with EU citizens having a say in his level of control over such speech. I'd recommmend interrogating anyone's use of the word "censor" to see what their own record of "censorship" is - everything is mediated/controlled/"censored" in some way by someone (Google filter bubble, etc.) - the only question is the democratisation of access to such controls. Community Notes may be more efficient than "bureaucrats" but I can't see any evidence that it's more accurate - it will almost certainly be more short-lived.

2795dhh 3y ago

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nvm0n2 3y ago

> while it seems obvious to most that CN isn't a feature that would have been conceived under Musk This isn't obvious at all. A big part of why Musk got upset with Twitter under its previous management was his dislike of centralized journalist-driven fact checking. He might not have come up with the algorithm but you can't claim it's living on borrowed time whilst simultaneously criticizing it for scaling up too fast.