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You're already ensconced in a filter bubble. The "one big silo" approach of HN guarantees homogeneity. Subcommunities cannot coalesce because anything too far
by rectang 3y ago
You're already ensconced in a filter bubble. The "one big silo" approach of HN guarantees homogeneity. Subcommunities cannot coalesce because anything too far outside the zeitgeist gets brigaded and downvoted out of existence.
To nurture wide diversity of opinion, freedom of association is required — not only the freedom to band together, but the freedom to exclude (using tools like hacker/smacker) those who are determined to shut you down.
- maxbond 3y agoI do think that is an interesting and worthwhile perspective, and broadly I agree with it. But I think a better way to do that is to spin up an HN clone, Mastodon instance, or Discord server. I don't think HN can really support that use case, because it goes against the culture and isn't supported by the platform itself.
- krapp 3y agoHN itself can't but there are plenty of third party apps and plugins that do. I'm finding this forum increasingly difficult to use without a blocklist. There is only so much time in the day to give equal time in your head to every asshole that can use a keyboard. This used to be commonly understood netiquette - you don't feed trolls, you killfile them and move on.
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- godelski 3y agoBubbles always exist. They aren't necessarily bad. But there are bubbles within bubbles. Creating very small bubbles is where we run into problems as we approach the echo chamber. A region where we cannot hear opinions other than our own. Disagreement is essential, as all opinions are wrong to some degree. Some are just more wrong than others.
- sanderjd 3y agoWhat does "brigaded" mean, in this instance?
- rectang 3y agoA sufficient mass of (uncoordinated) HN users responding to a post (by downvoting, flagging and lodging innumerable uncivil replies) until it is removed from the stream of discourse.
- sanderjd 3y agoOk. How is that different than things being organically downvoted and flagged? I thought the "brigade" concept typically means a coordinated effort.