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> that's the thing, software workers are used to just walking away, because their skills are versatile and demand is high. But walking away voluntarily is diff

by lapcat 3y ago

> that's the thing, software workers are used to just walking away, because their skills are versatile and demand is high. But walking away voluntarily is different from having to walk away because your employer gives you an ultimatum. Especially when you're facing a market that has been hit by mass layoffs by many tech companies, and especially if you're looking specifically for a WFH job when many companies are demanding return to the office, precisely reason you'd be walking away in the first place.

johnnyanmac 3y ago
>But walking away voluntarily is different from having to walk away because your employer gives you an ultimatum. Is there a real difference between walking away due to an ultimatum and walking away due to the prospect of better pay or work conditions? Especially in the case where you started pre-pandemic and technically WFH was never indefinitely promised? Either way, you are voluntarily choosing to seek a better job with better work conditions. The only difference is that you may not be able to be as covert in the ultimatum situation.
- lapcat 3y ago
  > the prospect of better pay or work conditions > to seek a better job with better work conditions > The only difference is that you may not be able to be as covert in the ultimatum situation. The words you use here are interesting: "the prospect", "to seek". The only difference is that you may not be able to find a better job with better work conditions if you're operating under the gun of unemployment and in a significantly worse job market. When you leave voluntarily, it's because you've already found a new job. You're operating from a position of strength and proactivity, not weakness and reactivity. > technically WFH was never indefinitely promised It some cases it was indefinitely promised, and then employers broke the promise.

by lapcat 3y ago

johnnyanmac 3y ago

>But walking away voluntarily is different from having to walk away because your employer gives you an ultimatum. Is there a real difference between walking away due to an ultimatum and walking away due to the prospect of better pay or work conditions? Especially in the case where you started pre-pandemic and technically WFH was never indefinitely promised? Either way, you are voluntarily choosing to seek a better job with better work conditions. The only difference is that you may not be able to be as covert in the ultimatum situation.

lapcat 3y ago
> the prospect of better pay or work conditions > to seek a better job with better work conditions > The only difference is that you may not be able to be as covert in the ultimatum situation. The words you use here are interesting: "the prospect", "to seek". The only difference is that you may not be able to find a better job with better work conditions if you're operating under the gun of unemployment and in a significantly worse job market. When you leave voluntarily, it's because you've already found a new job. You're operating from a position of strength and proactivity, not weakness and reactivity. > technically WFH was never indefinitely promised It some cases it was indefinitely promised, and then employers broke the promise.