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There is already a loose, undefined apprenticeship system in technology with the intern/junior roles. With a union, the pathway would be more defined, not requ

There is already a loose, undefined apprenticeship system in technology with the intern/junior roles. With a union, the pathway would be more defined, not required a college degree, and folks would get paid fairly and not have to job hop to get a raise. We'd also open access/be more inclusive by formally removing the need for college degrees and the HR "must have 15 years of rust experience" shenanigans. We might even get real engineer licensing programs and become an accountable part of society...!

stale2002 3y ago
> With a union, the pathway would be more defined By defined you mean requires as per the contract or even the law. Yeah, no. We do not want to be forced into your requirements. And we will fight and sabotage all of these efforts, because we know what it is that you are advocating for, and we will not pull up the ladder behind us. Fortunately, the anti union side is winning in the tech industry, and those who want enforced barriers to entry are losing so much that none of this is even a real conversation in the industry right now. > We might even get real engineer licensing programs So literal legal requirements. Yes this is what us anti union people want to prevent. This is why you will never has us on board. Because when your mask comes off, and people are actually honest about what they want implemented, it becomes clear that it was always exactly the stuff that we were trying to prevent.
satvikpendem 3y ago
Everything you say here, I agree with the sibling. I would not want to be in a field that has the requirements you're talking about. It is precisely why I joined a computer science major and job and not a computer engineering one.