4 ms·
I'm sorry, but this comment is a perfect example of why combating this behavior is so tough. And I don't mean to pick on you—this POV is demonstrated throughout
by torstenvl 3y ago
I'm sorry, but this comment is a perfect example of why combating this behavior is so tough. And I don't mean to pick on you—this POV is demonstrated throughout the comments here.
Sexual harassment is wrong and should result in appropriate action. However, the absolute breathless hysterics—and frankly dishonesty—that result in these conversations fundamentally undermines the credibility of every single allegation that comes forward.
A man commits sexual harassment by making an advance while putting a hand on a woman's shoulder. It then gets exaggerated at every level: it's assault, then it's groping, then it's sexual assault, then he's a "rapist" and this is "dangerous" and and "act of violence."
When you unleash this tornado of hyperbole, you condition everyone who hears your message to assume that such allegations are always exaggerated and dishonest. And again, it's not just you personally: the OP surveys intentionally conflating "harassment or assault" are just as fundamentally insane.
This messaging tells every single person who might end up on one of my juries that they shouldn't believe a word out of the victim's mouth.
So yeah. I guess if you really care about holding people accountable, maybe try not intentionally sabotaging the attempts to do so.
- knodi123 3y agoWow, that's the fastest slippery slope argument I've ever seen. In the absence of a specific incident to discuss, this sounds both alarmist and alarmingly misogynist. Especially since nobody has suggested that's what happened in the very specific example that this thread is very specifically about.
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- torstenvl 3y agoYou might want to read up on what that term means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
- knodi123 3y agoThanks, that's lovely. Your comment was deeply troubling on many levels, but you're right, I misused a technical term. Now that we're both done pointing out how problematic the other's words are, I hope the world will be a better place.
- torstenvl 3y agoThe only thing deeply troubling about it is how fanatics like to pretend it isn't true. All I can say is, jury trials are open to the public. Come on down and watch some time. Until you actually take the time to understand the true elan and effects on target of this virtue-signaling drivel, you're really not in any position to express an opinion one way or another. Those opportunities are plentiful and free, so there's really no excuse.
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]