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There is absolutely 0 point on checking russian official channels for anything apart from maybe weather forecast. They say truth only by mistake in most topics

There is absolutely 0 point on checking russian official channels for anything apart from maybe weather forecast. They say truth only by mistake in most topics which would matter to outside observer, or to anybody on anything even remotely political. Russia has a very very long tradition with lies left and right, to the point where entire generations of russian citizens are trained to take those lies apart and find some truth using some obscure negation logic. Or just zone out and ignore it completely, which is convenient for dictatorship there since those folks are very easy to manipulate. I mean in same vein that polar tribes have say 30 names for different types of snow and ice, russians have various names for various types of lies. Go figure.

93po 3y ago
Russia is far from unique in constantly lying
- jfengel 3y ago
  They kind of are. Of course all countries use propaganda, and the US is at least as guilty as most. But Russia has a famous history of issuing a constant stream of outright lies. It has a name, маскировка "maskirovka". It goes far past the literal meaning of "camouflage", to the point where a continuous disinformation is used to hide the notion that there might even be such a thing as truth. The idea is to make lying a reflex, in the hope of confusing an enemy into making a mistake. (It also causes your own side to make mistakes. The idea is that the Russian people themselves are used to it, but simply have a somewhat nihilistic approach to any kind of official speech and even unofficial speech.) As I said, every country uses deception. But the Russians really do consider it a cultural trait of its own, meriting its own name. The Wikipedia article doesn't even begin to cover it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_deception https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_deception

93po 3y ago

Russia is far from unique in constantly lying

jfengel 3y ago
They kind of are. Of course all countries use propaganda, and the US is at least as guilty as most. But Russia has a famous history of issuing a constant stream of outright lies. It has a name, маскировка "maskirovka". It goes far past the literal meaning of "camouflage", to the point where a continuous disinformation is used to hide the notion that there might even be such a thing as truth. The idea is to make lying a reflex, in the hope of confusing an enemy into making a mistake. (It also causes your own side to make mistakes. The idea is that the Russian people themselves are used to it, but simply have a somewhat nihilistic approach to any kind of official speech and even unofficial speech.) As I said, every country uses deception. But the Russians really do consider it a cultural trait of its own, meriting its own name. The Wikipedia article doesn't even begin to cover it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_deception https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_deception