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I always find it fascinating how some sites or companies with huge global impacts get away with secretive directors from some Elbonia-adjacent country. But cons

I always find it fascinating how some sites or companies with huge global impacts get away with secretive directors from some Elbonia-adjacent country. But considering how frequent human trafficking is in pornography, I'd probably keep my life as secret as possible as well.

KptMarchewa 3y ago
> Elbonia-adjacent country This guy has been living in US pretty much entire life.
- cjbgkagh 3y ago
  It’s a Dilbert reference, I presume intentional
  - hbcondo714 3y ago
    https://dilbert.fandom.com/wiki/Elbonia https://dilbert.fandom.com/wiki/Elbonia
  - KptMarchewa 3y ago
    I know, but it's wrongly applied.
sho_hn 3y ago
Your comment comes across as xenophobic.
- pc86 3y ago
  How so?
- version_five 3y ago
  I'd say more ignorant. Isn't he from Ukraine? Is that a country that's not commonly known?
vGPU 3y ago
Ukraine has actually long been a center of human trafficking and the more unsavory types of pornography. For a while I believe they were actually one of the biggest producers and exporters of CSAM. For example: the arrest of Maksym Shynkarenko was described as the “most successful child pornography investigation in U.S. history” by the government. And before the war really kicked off they were really starting to gain a reputation for sex tourism. As of the latest 2023 report from the US Gov, “The Government of Ukraine does not fully meet the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking”. This is particularly concerning: “Authorities prosecuted and convicted fewer traffickers, and most convicted traffickers avoided imprisonment… for the sixth consecutive year the government did not secure any convictions of complicit officials.” Six years. They’ve let corrupt officials traffic humans with impunity for six years. https://www.state.gov/reports/2023-trafficking-in-persons-report/ukraine/ https://www.state.gov/reports/2023-trafficking-in-persons-re...
- khuey 3y ago
  > As of the latest 2023 report from the US Gov, “The Government of Ukraine does not fully meet the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking”. Notably that puts them in the same category as Ireland, Japan, Norway, and Greece on this report. The list of "tier 1" countries is pretty short, much of the world is in "tier 2" with Ukraine.
  - vGPU 3y ago
    Yes, but at the same time, I doubt that any of those countries would be able to lay claim to such dubious achievements as “allowing corrupt politicians to sell their people into sex slavery without fear”.
    - johnnyanmac 3y ago
      >, I doubt that any of those countries would be able to lay claim to such dubious achievements as “allowing corrupt politicians to sell their people into sex slavery without fear”. I don't know, I see India, Kenya, and Brazil on that list. It's not exactly ironclad. Besides, all we're arguing here is what has worse PR, not who actually has the worst problems. Tier 2 criteria literally includes "making active efforts to become Tier 1".
tennisflyi 3y ago
Any citations that don’t come from anti-porn groups?

KptMarchewa 3y ago

> Elbonia-adjacent country This guy has been living in US pretty much entire life.

cjbgkagh 3y ago
It’s a Dilbert reference, I presume intentional
- hbcondo714 3y ago
  https://dilbert.fandom.com/wiki/Elbonia https://dilbert.fandom.com/wiki/Elbonia
- KptMarchewa 3y ago
  I know, but it's wrongly applied.

sho_hn 3y ago

Your comment comes across as xenophobic.

pc86 3y ago
How so?
version_five 3y ago
I'd say more ignorant. Isn't he from Ukraine? Is that a country that's not commonly known?

vGPU 3y ago

Ukraine has actually long been a center of human trafficking and the more unsavory types of pornography. For a while I believe they were actually one of the biggest producers and exporters of CSAM. For example: the arrest of Maksym Shynkarenko was described as the “most successful child pornography investigation in U.S. history” by the government. And before the war really kicked off they were really starting to gain a reputation for sex tourism. As of the latest 2023 report from the US Gov, “The Government of Ukraine does not fully meet the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking”. This is particularly concerning: “Authorities prosecuted and convicted fewer traffickers, and most convicted traffickers avoided imprisonment… for the sixth consecutive year the government did not secure any convictions of complicit officials.” Six years. They’ve let corrupt officials traffic humans with impunity for six years. https://www.state.gov/reports/2023-trafficking-in-persons-report/ukraine/ https://www.state.gov/reports/2023-trafficking-in-persons-re...

khuey 3y ago
> As of the latest 2023 report from the US Gov, “The Government of Ukraine does not fully meet the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking”. Notably that puts them in the same category as Ireland, Japan, Norway, and Greece on this report. The list of "tier 1" countries is pretty short, much of the world is in "tier 2" with Ukraine.
- vGPU 3y ago
  Yes, but at the same time, I doubt that any of those countries would be able to lay claim to such dubious achievements as “allowing corrupt politicians to sell their people into sex slavery without fear”.
  - johnnyanmac 3y ago
    >, I doubt that any of those countries would be able to lay claim to such dubious achievements as “allowing corrupt politicians to sell their people into sex slavery without fear”. I don't know, I see India, Kenya, and Brazil on that list. It's not exactly ironclad. Besides, all we're arguing here is what has worse PR, not who actually has the worst problems. Tier 2 criteria literally includes "making active efforts to become Tier 1".

tennisflyi 3y ago

Any citations that don’t come from anti-porn groups?