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There's also simultaneous appreciation and aversion. There's some experimental and challenging modern classical compositions that I can appreciate aestheticall

by retrac 3y ago

There's also simultaneous appreciation and aversion. There's some experimental and challenging modern classical compositions that I can appreciate aesthetically but which are, at the same time, almost painfully unlistenable. Steve Reich's Four Organs is a good example [1]. It's music, I hear the structure of the music, my mood shifts with the music, yet after a few minutes... aaaaaaaaaaghh! turn it off!!! In the dramatic arts, there's the whole genre of horror. I'm fairly sure this extends to foods. Some people like to eat foods that are right on that threshold between triggering intolerable revulsion and excitement. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0yTZmMgI5I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0yTZmMgI5I

adw 3y ago
The whole stunt-hot-sauce phenomenon is exactly that.
demux 3y ago
Krzysztof Penderecki is also on the list of revolutionary but unlistenable.
loup-vaillant 3y ago
> In the dramatic arts, there's the whole genre of horror. For me that would be tragedies: characters being stupid and obnoxious just to make sure it all ends up very badly. All the more infuriating when there are good tragedies out there, where the drives and struggles of the characters actually make sense. Last one I recall was Cyberpunk: Edgerunners. (Edit: just listened to the organs, it is SO slow. And what, a single chord? To be honest I don’t find enough information in there, it’s boring to the point of torture.)
DoingSomeThings 3y ago
Steve Reich is a fantastic example. Four Organs is unlistenable to me, but I find Music for 18 Musicians and Electric Counterpoint beautiful. Part of it comes from performance exposure. I enjoy music I've studied and devoted time to understanding well enough to play. As a percussionist, I find Clapping Music enthralling. Pure rhythm. Nothing else. I'm under no illusion, however, that this is mass market appeal. That's ok with me.

by retrac 3y ago

adw 3y ago

The whole stunt-hot-sauce phenomenon is exactly that.

demux 3y ago

Krzysztof Penderecki is also on the list of revolutionary but unlistenable.

loup-vaillant 3y ago

> In the dramatic arts, there's the whole genre of horror. For me that would be tragedies: characters being stupid and obnoxious just to make sure it all ends up very badly. All the more infuriating when there are good tragedies out there, where the drives and struggles of the characters actually make sense. Last one I recall was Cyberpunk: Edgerunners. (Edit: just listened to the organs, it is SO slow. And what, a single chord? To be honest I don’t find enough information in there, it’s boring to the point of torture.)

DoingSomeThings 3y ago

Steve Reich is a fantastic example. Four Organs is unlistenable to me, but I find Music for 18 Musicians and Electric Counterpoint beautiful. Part of it comes from performance exposure. I enjoy music I've studied and devoted time to understanding well enough to play. As a percussionist, I find Clapping Music enthralling. Pure rhythm. Nothing else. I'm under no illusion, however, that this is mass market appeal. That's ok with me.