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If those are user's preferences then that's OK! But they are not. Can we all agree that having top-left corner be rounded, while leaving top-right corner square

If those are user's preferences then that's OK! But they are not. Can we all agree that having top-left corner be rounded, while leaving top-right corner square is just dumb? Can we all agree that a white border on a dark-mode page is stupid as heck? This is what happens when browser makers interfere with web application design.

db48x 3y ago
No, I don't want to go around dividing those things into “accessibility” and “merely aesthetic” buckets, and then only allow the things in the first bucket. For one thing, some of them are both. I can and do apply custom style sheets to all kinds of web pages, which make all kinds of changes that the web designer might not like. Some of them improve the aesthetics according to my idiosyncratic preferences, others improve my ability to access the content. And of course it should go without saying that I remove all the ads and other nonsense too. If you are speaking as a web designer, then you don’t get to complain about rounded corners on the viewport. Or about any other thing which the browser does to your page, even if you think of your page as an application. If you are speaking simply as a user of Edge, then you should complain to Microsoft if those rounded corners offend your sense of aesthetics. Or use a different browser. I recommend Firefox! Firefox is great.
- breadwinner 3y ago
  Of course I get to complain about it! That's the only way to bring about change! If enough people complain about it, and I think there will be, Microsoft will fix it.
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- zzo38computer 3y ago
  > No, I don't want to go around dividing those things into “accessibility” and “merely aesthetic” buckets, and then only allow the things in the first bucket. For one thing, some of them are both. I agree, and want to allow everything. Actually, I think perhaps all of them are both, and anyways the end user should control and configure all of them. > If you are speaking as a web designer, then you don’t get to complain about rounded corners on the viewport. I think the web designer may have a reasonable complaint about the browser doing that by default with no option to disable it, since that makes it difficult for everyone. However, the user has a better and even more valid complaint about this, especially if it cannot be turned off. However, if the end user adds the rounded corners deliberately then it is not for the web designer to complain about the user's preferences.

db48x 3y ago

No, I don't want to go around dividing those things into “accessibility” and “merely aesthetic” buckets, and then only allow the things in the first bucket. For one thing, some of them are both. I can and do apply custom style sheets to all kinds of web pages, which make all kinds of changes that the web designer might not like. Some of them improve the aesthetics according to my idiosyncratic preferences, others improve my ability to access the content. And of course it should go without saying that I remove all the ads and other nonsense too. If you are speaking as a web designer, then you don’t get to complain about rounded corners on the viewport. Or about any other thing which the browser does to your page, even if you think of your page as an application. If you are speaking simply as a user of Edge, then you should complain to Microsoft if those rounded corners offend your sense of aesthetics. Or use a different browser. I recommend Firefox! Firefox is great.

breadwinner 3y ago
Of course I get to complain about it! That's the only way to bring about change! If enough people complain about it, and I think there will be, Microsoft will fix it.
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zzo38computer 3y ago
> No, I don't want to go around dividing those things into “accessibility” and “merely aesthetic” buckets, and then only allow the things in the first bucket. For one thing, some of them are both. I agree, and want to allow everything. Actually, I think perhaps all of them are both, and anyways the end user should control and configure all of them. > If you are speaking as a web designer, then you don’t get to complain about rounded corners on the viewport. I think the web designer may have a reasonable complaint about the browser doing that by default with no option to disable it, since that makes it difficult for everyone. However, the user has a better and even more valid complaint about this, especially if it cannot be turned off. However, if the end user adds the rounded corners deliberately then it is not for the web designer to complain about the user's preferences.