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What do you think radio waves transmit through on Earth? Why do you think I mentioned electrons specifically and not copper wires, optical fibers, etc.?

AnthonyMouse 3y ago
> What do you think radio waves transmit through on Earth? What do you think radio waves transmit through the vacuum of space where there are no electrons? It's energy, not matter. But that still isn't the point. The point is that the United States does not in fact and could not feasibly in practice block all radio transmissions from outside the United States from reaching people inside it. The First Amendment may prohibit them from doing so even if it was technically feasible, which it also isn't.
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  Have you lost track of the conversation? The parent comment is clearly referring to a terrestrial border, on Earth. And in any case humans currently only possess the technology to receive radio waves, even in a hard vacuum, via electrons. So 'Data' that matters to humans is always physical, with tangible non-zero mass, 100% of the time in 100% of all conceivable situations circa 2023.
  - AnthonyMouse 3y ago
    Radio waves are not made of electrons. They are waves not particles. You cannot put them on a shelf in the evidence room. They do not require matter to transmit through, which is why they still work in the vacuum of space. But most relevantly, there is no practically feasible barrier you can use to keep them out of your country.
    - MichaelZuo 3y ago
      It feels like your not reading my comments thoroughly, or associating non-existant claims to them. No one has said anything about whether radio waves are 'made of electrons' prior to your comment. Also, what does 'practically feasible' have to do with the parent comment? A lot of things that are not practically feasible are nonetheless mandated in some form or another, and are still punished for if a transgression is detected via happenstance, there are many examples throughout history.

AnthonyMouse 3y ago

> What do you think radio waves transmit through on Earth? What do you think radio waves transmit through the vacuum of space where there are no electrons? It's energy, not matter. But that still isn't the point. The point is that the United States does not in fact and could not feasibly in practice block all radio transmissions from outside the United States from reaching people inside it. The First Amendment may prohibit them from doing so even if it was technically feasible, which it also isn't.

MichaelZuo 3y ago
Have you lost track of the conversation? The parent comment is clearly referring to a terrestrial border, on Earth. And in any case humans currently only possess the technology to receive radio waves, even in a hard vacuum, via electrons. So 'Data' that matters to humans is always physical, with tangible non-zero mass, 100% of the time in 100% of all conceivable situations circa 2023.
- AnthonyMouse 3y ago
  Radio waves are not made of electrons. They are waves not particles. You cannot put them on a shelf in the evidence room. They do not require matter to transmit through, which is why they still work in the vacuum of space. But most relevantly, there is no practically feasible barrier you can use to keep them out of your country.
  - MichaelZuo 3y ago
    It feels like your not reading my comments thoroughly, or associating non-existant claims to them. No one has said anything about whether radio waves are 'made of electrons' prior to your comment. Also, what does 'practically feasible' have to do with the parent comment? A lot of things that are not practically feasible are nonetheless mandated in some form or another, and are still punished for if a transgression is detected via happenstance, there are many examples throughout history.