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> I give generously to charitable organizations that do the most good. This is my religious obligation, and it's also the best way to maximize my bucks. And th

> I give generously to charitable organizations that do the most good. This is my religious obligation, and it's also the best way to maximize my bucks. And they maximize your bucks with outlandish purchases for executives and "fund raising" parties for their selected few. I stopped caring for large NGOs when I found out how deeply corrupt their management is, including middle management. If you want to help, don't give them money, donate your time or goods, instead. The vast majority of your money goes into managerial salaries, bonuses and needless services and purchases. Look up the red cross or any other large organisation you may have in your area, they all do this without exceptions.

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
Hey, randunel, thanks for mentioning the American Red Cross! In fact, I have anecdotes about them as well! So about two weeks into the COVID-19 lockdowns, one of my upstairs neighbors set his apartment, and the unit next door, on fire. Like a big fire. The resultant fire, smoke, and water damage affected six units altogether, and the American Red Cross was right there on the scene, to render assistance and ensure that these families would not be turned out onto the streets. I didn't look closely at the news reports, but I didn't see any mention of randunel being there to help. Then last year, an ex of mine suffered a fire in her very own flat in SF. She has been disabled with a major stroke, and her roommate was also displaced, escaping with only what they could carry and their cats. After the fire was doused, thieves wasted no time in breaking in to take whatever wasn't nailed down. Again, the American Red Cross was on the scene (randunel conspicuously absent) and a GoFundMe was launched. As I stuck to my principles of donating to the best agency possible, I decided to send a few bucks to the AMR. In fact, I accidentally donated first to my local AMR, and then I doubled that by donating to the correct regional one in charge of San Francisco. I thought it to be quite appropriate to give back a little, since after all, they had helped my neighbors in need not long ago. So if it weren't for the American Red Cross and their good deeds, many Americans would be homeless and lost after disasters, and I'm thankful to them for being there in our times of need.
- SapporoChris 3y ago
  The grandparent spoke of corruption. In your comment you ignored the corruption comment and instead commented how your community had benefited and that therefore you supported the organization. By not addressing the corruption it could be interpreted that you're okay with corruption as long as you benefit from it. Was that your intention?
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
    alleged, unsubstantiated corruption, is that what you meant to write?
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    - Retric 3y ago
      Ehh, the Red Cross’s budget is 3 Billion and they spend 670 million on disaster relief and 360 million on admin. If your goal is to support disaster relief then they are an inefficient use of your resources. However, they also run blood drives and then sell the blood which is part of their overall budget independent of donations. $921 million is just salaries for people running blood drives, with similar expenses for overhead on supplies and equipment.
      - roenxi 3y ago
        In fairness, internal combustion engines are an inefficient use of resources. They just happen to be the best option. It is basically impossible to design an organisation that directs resources to economically unproductive people. $700 / $3,000 going to the right spot could be reasonably effective. I mean, at least the Red Cross won't take a fraction of the money and use it to fund ruinous, murderous and pointless rampages across Afghanistan. So they're doing better than the US government. And I think they might be outperforming the major churches for number of abuse scandals although that sort of thing is hard to measure. So it is less efficient than personally doing something locally, but if the local community is going OK then I could imagine the Red Cross might be the next best alternative.
_a_a_a_ 3y ago
Don't diss without actual links. "outlandish purchases for executives and fund raising parties" is shit-slinging and i'm tired of it from the minority of destructive wankers on HN (and elsewhere) that they can't see anything good, even a little, but have to presume the worst and pull it down. Your value in society is a net negative.
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- randunel 3y ago
  https://www.g4media.ro/crucea-rosie-romana-cumpara-telefoane-iphone-13-si-samsung-galaxy-s22-si-starneste-reactii-dure-pe-retelele-sociale-din-conducerea-institutiei-fac-parte-principesa-margareta-si-raed-arafat.html https://www.g4media.ro/crucea-rosie-romana-cumpara-telefoane... Of course, you can't help the Ukrainians unless you're sporting the latest iphone.
everyone 3y ago
Check out this charity... https://www.givedirectly.org/ https://www.givedirectly.org/ Their goal is to give as much money as possible to the poorest people as efficiently as possible. Data supports that this works and simply giving money helps those people. The charity also openly publish their data on how efficiently they are operating, currently at about 90%.
datavirtue 3y ago
Fuck straight off with trying to call the Red Cross corrupt. You are an absolute ignorant wretch. Never in my life have I run into a batch of people I would trust more. Every single person in that org is highly underpaid or unpaid and they work relentlessly actually helping people. Saints, the lot of them. I worked there for years and had intimate access to detailed branch financials and operations.
- randunel 3y ago
  When you're older, try being hosted by the Red Cross for the remainder of your years https://adevarul.ro/stiri-locale/focsani/camin-de-batrani-al-crucii-rosii-vrancea-inchis-2283471.html https://adevarul.ro/stiri-locale/focsani/camin-de-batrani-al... https://www.jurnaldevrancea.ro/noi-amanunte-despre-caminul-de-batrani-al-crucii-rosii-de-la-vartescoiu-ce-au-gasit-autoritatile/ https://www.jurnaldevrancea.ro/noi-amanunte-despre-caminul-d...
User23 3y ago
> I stopped caring for large NGOs when I found out how deeply corrupt their management is, including middle management. This happened for me at a bar in Seattle when I was sitting next to two women when were literally giggling about how the Gates Foundation paid them $300k a year for nothing.
rpdillon 3y ago
When I was in the military, I learned about the Combined Federal Campaign, which aggregates charities and allows federal employees to contribute through payroll deductions. https://cfcgiving.opm.gov/offerings https://cfcgiving.opm.gov/offerings One tool they offer is a calculation of AFR, which is the Administrative and Fundraising Expense Rate. It basically measures the overhead you're talking about. You can look it up for any charity that's part of the CFC at the link above. The EFF's AFR is over 30%. The Red Cross's AFR is a touch over 9%.
tomnipotent 3y ago
> Look up the red cross or any other large organisation American Red Cross - 90% of funds spent on program; 3% on admin/staff https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/530196605 https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/530196605 Feeding America - 98% of funds spent on program; 0.3% on admin/staff https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/363673599 https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/363673599 United Way Worldwide - 95% of funds spent on program; 2.6% on admin/staff https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/131635294 https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/131635294 St. Jude Hospital - 95% of funds spent on program; 3.9% on admin/staff https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/951643325 https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/951643325 Charities an both be effective and useful while also paying executive staff handsomely, these are not mutually exclusive. There's no rule that says non-profit/not-for-profit employees have to live as chaste or castigated monks.
- NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
  There's also the very real issue where to attract anyone with skills and talent, any non-profit will need to achieve parity of compensation with comparable for-profit officers. If they try to be altruistic and pay a pittance, or get volunteers, they simply aren't going to attract or retain good leadership.

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago

Hey, randunel, thanks for mentioning the American Red Cross! In fact, I have anecdotes about them as well! So about two weeks into the COVID-19 lockdowns, one of my upstairs neighbors set his apartment, and the unit next door, on fire. Like a big fire. The resultant fire, smoke, and water damage affected six units altogether, and the American Red Cross was right there on the scene, to render assistance and ensure that these families would not be turned out onto the streets. I didn't look closely at the news reports, but I didn't see any mention of randunel being there to help. Then last year, an ex of mine suffered a fire in her very own flat in SF. She has been disabled with a major stroke, and her roommate was also displaced, escaping with only what they could carry and their cats. After the fire was doused, thieves wasted no time in breaking in to take whatever wasn't nailed down. Again, the American Red Cross was on the scene (randunel conspicuously absent) and a GoFundMe was launched. As I stuck to my principles of donating to the best agency possible, I decided to send a few bucks to the AMR. In fact, I accidentally donated first to my local AMR, and then I doubled that by donating to the correct regional one in charge of San Francisco. I thought it to be quite appropriate to give back a little, since after all, they had helped my neighbors in need not long ago. So if it weren't for the American Red Cross and their good deeds, many Americans would be homeless and lost after disasters, and I'm thankful to them for being there in our times of need.

SapporoChris 3y ago
The grandparent spoke of corruption. In your comment you ignored the corruption comment and instead commented how your community had benefited and that therefore you supported the organization. By not addressing the corruption it could be interpreted that you're okay with corruption as long as you benefit from it. Was that your intention?
- NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
  alleged, unsubstantiated corruption, is that what you meant to write?
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
  - Retric 3y ago
    Ehh, the Red Cross’s budget is 3 Billion and they spend 670 million on disaster relief and 360 million on admin. If your goal is to support disaster relief then they are an inefficient use of your resources. However, they also run blood drives and then sell the blood which is part of their overall budget independent of donations. $921 million is just salaries for people running blood drives, with similar expenses for overhead on supplies and equipment.
    - roenxi 3y ago
      In fairness, internal combustion engines are an inefficient use of resources. They just happen to be the best option. It is basically impossible to design an organisation that directs resources to economically unproductive people. $700 / $3,000 going to the right spot could be reasonably effective. I mean, at least the Red Cross won't take a fraction of the money and use it to fund ruinous, murderous and pointless rampages across Afghanistan. So they're doing better than the US government. And I think they might be outperforming the major churches for number of abuse scandals although that sort of thing is hard to measure. So it is less efficient than personally doing something locally, but if the local community is going OK then I could imagine the Red Cross might be the next best alternative.

_a_a_a_ 3y ago

Don't diss without actual links. "outlandish purchases for executives and fund raising parties" is shit-slinging and i'm tired of it from the minority of destructive wankers on HN (and elsewhere) that they can't see anything good, even a little, but have to presume the worst and pull it down. Your value in society is a net negative.

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randunel 3y ago
https://www.g4media.ro/crucea-rosie-romana-cumpara-telefoane-iphone-13-si-samsung-galaxy-s22-si-starneste-reactii-dure-pe-retelele-sociale-din-conducerea-institutiei-fac-parte-principesa-margareta-si-raed-arafat.html https://www.g4media.ro/crucea-rosie-romana-cumpara-telefoane... Of course, you can't help the Ukrainians unless you're sporting the latest iphone.

everyone 3y ago

Check out this charity... https://www.givedirectly.org/ https://www.givedirectly.org/ Their goal is to give as much money as possible to the poorest people as efficiently as possible. Data supports that this works and simply giving money helps those people. The charity also openly publish their data on how efficiently they are operating, currently at about 90%.

datavirtue 3y ago

Fuck straight off with trying to call the Red Cross corrupt. You are an absolute ignorant wretch. Never in my life have I run into a batch of people I would trust more. Every single person in that org is highly underpaid or unpaid and they work relentlessly actually helping people. Saints, the lot of them. I worked there for years and had intimate access to detailed branch financials and operations.

randunel 3y ago
When you're older, try being hosted by the Red Cross for the remainder of your years https://adevarul.ro/stiri-locale/focsani/camin-de-batrani-al-crucii-rosii-vrancea-inchis-2283471.html https://adevarul.ro/stiri-locale/focsani/camin-de-batrani-al... https://www.jurnaldevrancea.ro/noi-amanunte-despre-caminul-de-batrani-al-crucii-rosii-de-la-vartescoiu-ce-au-gasit-autoritatile/ https://www.jurnaldevrancea.ro/noi-amanunte-despre-caminul-d...

User23 3y ago

> I stopped caring for large NGOs when I found out how deeply corrupt their management is, including middle management. This happened for me at a bar in Seattle when I was sitting next to two women when were literally giggling about how the Gates Foundation paid them $300k a year for nothing.

rpdillon 3y ago

When I was in the military, I learned about the Combined Federal Campaign, which aggregates charities and allows federal employees to contribute through payroll deductions. https://cfcgiving.opm.gov/offerings https://cfcgiving.opm.gov/offerings One tool they offer is a calculation of AFR, which is the Administrative and Fundraising Expense Rate. It basically measures the overhead you're talking about. You can look it up for any charity that's part of the CFC at the link above. The EFF's AFR is over 30%. The Red Cross's AFR is a touch over 9%.

tomnipotent 3y ago

> Look up the red cross or any other large organisation American Red Cross - 90% of funds spent on program; 3% on admin/staff https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/530196605 https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/530196605 Feeding America - 98% of funds spent on program; 0.3% on admin/staff https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/363673599 https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/363673599 United Way Worldwide - 95% of funds spent on program; 2.6% on admin/staff https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/131635294 https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/131635294 St. Jude Hospital - 95% of funds spent on program; 3.9% on admin/staff https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/951643325 https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/951643325 Charities an both be effective and useful while also paying executive staff handsomely, these are not mutually exclusive. There's no rule that says non-profit/not-for-profit employees have to live as chaste or castigated monks.

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
There's also the very real issue where to attract anyone with skills and talent, any non-profit will need to achieve parity of compensation with comparable for-profit officers. If they try to be altruistic and pay a pittance, or get volunteers, they simply aren't going to attract or retain good leadership.