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“They have no oversight, no taxpayer accountability, no academic or curriculum standards,” said Beth Lewis, director of Save Our Schools Arizona, a public schoo

“They have no oversight, no taxpayer accountability, no academic or curriculum standards,” said Beth Lewis, director of Save Our Schools Arizona, a public school advocacy group. “We don’t know what kids are learning.” The irony is deep with this one. It could be rephrased “They are not recognising our gatekeeper status nor participating in our bureaucratic processes and frankly that is just not fair. We especially object to our loss of exclusive access to tax payer funds. The idea that the tax payer themselves could have a direct say in how those funds are used in educating their children is just outrageous.”

agentgumshoe 3y ago
The hubris here of their "we know what's best for your child" assertion is astounding. "We don't know what kids are learning" is a wonderful thing to hear from a government rep.
- reducesuffering 3y ago
  > Beth Lewis, director of Save Our Schools Arizona, a public school advocacy group Uhh, that isn't a "government rep." What kind of school did you go to?
  - agentgumshoe 3y ago
    Oops my bad. That'll teach me for not going back and double-checking. But looking at it, I don't support their approach anyway.
digitalengineer 3y ago
" If we look at what goes on in other countries, the U.S. stands out as the anomaly. When other countries allow homeschooling, they regulate it much more strictly. They demand that parents show they are qualified to teach and that they turn in the curricula they plan to use. Other countries impose home-visit requirements, which are both a protection against child maltreatment and also a check on whether the parents are actually providing the education they say they are." The Harvard Gazette: "A warning on homeschooling" https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/05/law-school-professor-says-there-may-be-a-dark-side-of-homeschooling/ https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/05/law-school-pr...
- heywhatupboys 3y ago
  > If we look at what goes on in other countries, classic (deliberate) oversight in all comparative political studies in the US: there are 180 other countries. of course YOUR country will always be an outlier compared to some other countries
- southerntofu 3y ago
  France has very strict regulations regarding homeschooling, but i wouldn't consider that a win. The official program, whether in schools or in homeschooling still lacks many things and still contains various forms of historical propaganda for the horrors of the french Empire. While private catholic schools that people pay thousands of euros for are silently allowed to spew homophobic/creationist propaganda, it's become much harder for anarchist parents to teach their kids at home or together. Personally i still think anti-authoritarian schools (like Montessori) are much better than homeschooling, but i don't think war against homeschooling is a good thing, especially when it's done at the same time that public services are slowly being disfunded/dismantled to their slow and painful death.

agentgumshoe 3y ago

The hubris here of their "we know what's best for your child" assertion is astounding. "We don't know what kids are learning" is a wonderful thing to hear from a government rep.

reducesuffering 3y ago
> Beth Lewis, director of Save Our Schools Arizona, a public school advocacy group Uhh, that isn't a "government rep." What kind of school did you go to?
- agentgumshoe 3y ago
  Oops my bad. That'll teach me for not going back and double-checking. But looking at it, I don't support their approach anyway.

digitalengineer 3y ago

" If we look at what goes on in other countries, the U.S. stands out as the anomaly. When other countries allow homeschooling, they regulate it much more strictly. They demand that parents show they are qualified to teach and that they turn in the curricula they plan to use. Other countries impose home-visit requirements, which are both a protection against child maltreatment and also a check on whether the parents are actually providing the education they say they are." The Harvard Gazette: "A warning on homeschooling" https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/05/law-school-professor-says-there-may-be-a-dark-side-of-homeschooling/ https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/05/law-school-pr...

heywhatupboys 3y ago
> If we look at what goes on in other countries, classic (deliberate) oversight in all comparative political studies in the US: there are 180 other countries. of course YOUR country will always be an outlier compared to some other countries
southerntofu 3y ago
France has very strict regulations regarding homeschooling, but i wouldn't consider that a win. The official program, whether in schools or in homeschooling still lacks many things and still contains various forms of historical propaganda for the horrors of the french Empire. While private catholic schools that people pay thousands of euros for are silently allowed to spew homophobic/creationist propaganda, it's become much harder for anarchist parents to teach their kids at home or together. Personally i still think anti-authoritarian schools (like Montessori) are much better than homeschooling, but i don't think war against homeschooling is a good thing, especially when it's done at the same time that public services are slowly being disfunded/dismantled to their slow and painful death.