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I know, I have one and it cost the company about 3x as much as a 16" MacBook Pro. An expense that's very unaffordable for most companies, not to mention most de

by izacus 3y ago

I know, I have one and it cost the company about 3x as much as a 16" MacBook Pro. An expense that's very unaffordable for most companies, not to mention most developers. (Even most MBPs are unaffordable for a large set of developers.) I don't think it's as accessible to average C++ or Rust developers as you expect.

forrestthewoods 3y ago
It’s definitely not a baseline. It’s simply what I have infront of me. Lenovo P620 is a somewhat common machine for large studios doing Unreal development. And it just so happens that, apparently, lots of people in this thread all work somewhere that provides one. I don’t think the story changes much for more affordable hardware.
- pjmlp 3y ago
  I kind of does, given that the C and C++ culture depends heavily on binary libs (hence the usual ABI drama), in more affordable hardware building everything from source, versus using binary libraries makes a huge difference, thus C++ builds end up being quite fast unless they abuse templates (without extern template on libs).
maccard 3y ago
My 3970x workstation, all in, cost about £3200. I've also got a 14" Macbook Pro (personal machine) that was a _little_ cheaper - it was £2700. > An expense that's very unaffordable for most companies I think it's unaffordable for some companies, but not most. If your company is paying you $60k, they can afford $3500 once every 5 years on hardware. > I don't think it's as accessible to average C++ or Rust developers as you expect. I never said they were accessible, just that they are widespread (as is clear from the people in this thread who have the same hardware as I do). FWIW, I was involved in choosing the hardware for our team. We initially went with Threadrippers for engineers, but we found that in practice, a 5950x (we now use 7950x's) is _slightly_ slower for full rebuilds but _much_ faster for incremental builds which we do most of.

by izacus 3y ago

forrestthewoods 3y ago

It’s definitely not a baseline. It’s simply what I have infront of me. Lenovo P620 is a somewhat common machine for large studios doing Unreal development. And it just so happens that, apparently, lots of people in this thread all work somewhere that provides one. I don’t think the story changes much for more affordable hardware.

pjmlp 3y ago
I kind of does, given that the C and C++ culture depends heavily on binary libs (hence the usual ABI drama), in more affordable hardware building everything from source, versus using binary libraries makes a huge difference, thus C++ builds end up being quite fast unless they abuse templates (without extern template on libs).

maccard 3y ago

My 3970x workstation, all in, cost about £3200. I've also got a 14" Macbook Pro (personal machine) that was a _little_ cheaper - it was £2700. > An expense that's very unaffordable for most companies I think it's unaffordable for some companies, but not most. If your company is paying you $60k, they can afford $3500 once every 5 years on hardware. > I don't think it's as accessible to average C++ or Rust developers as you expect. I never said they were accessible, just that they are widespread (as is clear from the people in this thread who have the same hardware as I do). FWIW, I was involved in choosing the hardware for our team. We initially went with Threadrippers for engineers, but we found that in practice, a 5950x (we now use 7950x's) is _slightly_ slower for full rebuilds but _much_ faster for incremental builds which we do most of.