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Do you think science should appeal to empathy? Some of us are trying to arrive to a correct understanding of what likely is or isn't possible. How would being

Do you think science should appeal to empathy? Some of us are trying to arrive to a correct understanding of what likely is or isn't possible. How would being dishonest about the implications and sticking your head in the sand wrt a more refined understanding of NN capabilities possibly help you in the scenario you've outlined? I don't know about you but the idea of conjuring up a false edifice as means to cope with reality is kind of obscene. How about something pragmatic, like contemplating the soundness of universal basic income?

ChatGTP 3y ago
I'm not talking about me personally, I'm just surprised other are surprised that people are trying to cope with the their livelihoods or worse may be completely obliterated. Maybe emotional intelligence isn't common within the ubergeek class?
- stevenhuang 3y ago
  Yeah the person asking if this is the goal post's final form--that was a rhetorical question. Obviously they suspect why and they're expressing their incredulity at people still in the denial stage of grief. Being emotive to the extent you're cognitively impaired is not a favourable condition to be in.
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    people still in the denial stage of grief. I think something has gone wrong with "technological progress" when we building technology which puts large amounts of people into "denial" and "grief". Personally, if people can't really understand that and then make statements like, "they need to remain logical" or whatever, then I guess you'll never get it.
ghostzilla 3y ago
Apparently you deleted one of your previous comments on the topic, so I'll repost it here as it illustrates wonderfully how "pragmatic" your own thinking is, especially the part that matrix multiplication in a loop is "literally what your brain is doing": "Ah it's you again! It's quite funny seeing the dearth of knowledge you routinely insist on displaying whenever this topic comes up. Consider doing some reading on the information theoretic view of cognition and neurobiology. You'll find leading theories for how our brains work have many similarities to NNs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictive_coding https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictive_coding Another thing, you don't seem to understand that all physical processes can be modeled completely through matmuls. You should also read up on the definition of intelligence because you seem confused on what it means. Pretty much every assertion you make here is wrong and you don't even know it. You assert "it's common sense" something that does matrix multiplication in a loop can't be intelligent, yet get this, it's literally what your brain is doing. Please have some epistemic humility and consider refraining from forming strong opinions on topics you don't have a clue on."

ChatGTP 3y ago

I'm not talking about me personally, I'm just surprised other are surprised that people are trying to cope with the their livelihoods or worse may be completely obliterated. Maybe emotional intelligence isn't common within the ubergeek class?

stevenhuang 3y ago
Yeah the person asking if this is the goal post's final form--that was a rhetorical question. Obviously they suspect why and they're expressing their incredulity at people still in the denial stage of grief. Being emotive to the extent you're cognitively impaired is not a favourable condition to be in.
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  people still in the denial stage of grief. I think something has gone wrong with "technological progress" when we building technology which puts large amounts of people into "denial" and "grief". Personally, if people can't really understand that and then make statements like, "they need to remain logical" or whatever, then I guess you'll never get it.

ghostzilla 3y ago

Apparently you deleted one of your previous comments on the topic, so I'll repost it here as it illustrates wonderfully how "pragmatic" your own thinking is, especially the part that matrix multiplication in a loop is "literally what your brain is doing": "Ah it's you again! It's quite funny seeing the dearth of knowledge you routinely insist on displaying whenever this topic comes up. Consider doing some reading on the information theoretic view of cognition and neurobiology. You'll find leading theories for how our brains work have many similarities to NNs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictive_coding https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictive_coding Another thing, you don't seem to understand that all physical processes can be modeled completely through matmuls. You should also read up on the definition of intelligence because you seem confused on what it means. Pretty much every assertion you make here is wrong and you don't even know it. You assert "it's common sense" something that does matrix multiplication in a loop can't be intelligent, yet get this, it's literally what your brain is doing. Please have some epistemic humility and consider refraining from forming strong opinions on topics you don't have a clue on."