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The prevailing culture in large city public schools turns those ideas on their head. The focus is on individual self-actualization, and questioning authority, h
by gamblor956 3y ago
The prevailing culture in large city public schools turns those ideas on their head. The focus is on individual self-actualization, and questioning authority, hierarchy, elders, and norms. It’s about what society owes individuals (“rights”) instead of what individuals owe society. There’s a veneer of cooperation and obligation, but it’s framed in terms of what “privileged” (whites, the rich) owe everyone else, not what each individual owes society.
That is a very bizarre fantasy that sounds like something a Fox News talking head that has never been within 2000 feet of a public school would say.
- rayiner 3y agoI went to American public schools in the 1990s, in a very moderate county. Several teachers joined with the students to protest the county’s attempt to impose a dress code. And what does Fox News have to do with anything?
- watwut 3y agoThat sounds like a healthy school in which some teachers think the dress code was bad. Simple as that.
- rayiner 3y ago[flagged]
- watwut 3y agoThe teachers joining protest against dress code in no way implies "focus is on individual self-actualization, and questioning authority, hierarchy, elders, and norms. It’s about what society owes individuals (“rights”) instead of what individuals owe society. " The protest can mean a lot of things, including the dress code itself being against the norms of the community. One does not need to focus on questioning authority to protest bad decisions. Also, I am not American.
- rayiner 3y agoDo you not have students complaining about dress codes in your country? It was the typical individualist dreck: “kids have a right to dress like slobs/express their inner selves and schools shouldn’t try to stop them.” It was not a protest to reinforce existing community standards against an aberrant decision.
- watwut 3y ago> Do you not have students complaining about dress codes in your country? What does that have to do with anything? Some dress codes are truly stupid, to the point they are literally ignored by both teachers and students. Which is just our chosen way to deal with it, usually. When there is clash, dress code violation is typically seen as something minor, so no reason to protest when you can kinda ignore it. Frankly, organizing protest is so much work, that kids in your story come across as active people who take governance seriously.
- gamblor956 3y agoI went to an extremely conservative school in an extremely conservative school district. We also had protests over dress codes, and it wasn't about the "right to dress like slobs." It was entirely about reinforcing existing community standards (i.e., freedom of expression through clothing) against an aberrant decision (a district-mandated dress code imposed by a newly-elected slate of neo-conservatives).