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Humans have a limited amount of willpower. The average person can handle addressing a couple of these issues, but some people (especially the poor and the ill)

Humans have a limited amount of willpower. The average person can handle addressing a couple of these issues, but some people (especially the poor and the ill) have so many simultaneous issues that their willpower is too divided for them to make meaningful headway.

WalterBright 3y ago
> ill I usually preface my comments on this topic with legal adults of sound mind and body. > poor The millions walking over the border have nothing, but they see opportunity in the US.
- RoyalHenOil 3y ago
  I think you have a quite limited understanding of the funds and planning that go into crossing the border, and also how effectively people who make that crossing solve other issues in their lives. My brother-in-law's family crossed the border illegally out of dire necessity. However, they still have many others issues (managing money, working for awful bosses, living in crappy housing, family in-fighting, unhappy marriage, etc.) that they have struggled to fix. Some of these issues are so bad that it has led my brother-in-law to distance himself from some of them. So yes, they did a really hard thing to solve an extremely pressing problem, but it does not mean they have solved all of their problems. There is only so much one person can do to fix their life when there are many things wrong with it. They can usually only prioritize a couple of things.
  - WalterBright 3y ago
    > I think you have a quite limited understanding of the funds and planning that go into crossing the border, and also how effectively people who make that crossing solve other issues in their lives. And yet they managed to do it. They could and did move to where there's more opportunity. > but it does not mean they have solved all of their problems Nobody solves all their problems. But they can prioritize, make a plan, and knock them down one at a time. Success isn't instant, either. Or do nothing and remain a victim. America was populated by Europeans arriving here with nothing. They worked their way into the middle class and the rich. The American West was populated by people walking across the continent. It's still happening today. People have choices.
    - RoyalHenOil 3y ago
      Then let me reiterate my original comment, because I don't understand your argument against it: >Humans have a limited amount of willpower. The average person can handle addressing a couple of these issues, but some people (especially the poor and the ill) have so many simultaneous issues that their willpower is too divided for them to make meaningful headway. I also want to mention (again) that immigrating long distances or across closed borders is not free. It's actually very expensive, and often more expensive when done illegally (since those helping you are assuming a personal risk). It is not something that poor people can do. Someone might make themselves poor doing it, but that doesn't mean that they started with nothing.

WalterBright 3y ago

> ill I usually preface my comments on this topic with legal adults of sound mind and body. > poor The millions walking over the border have nothing, but they see opportunity in the US.

RoyalHenOil 3y ago
I think you have a quite limited understanding of the funds and planning that go into crossing the border, and also how effectively people who make that crossing solve other issues in their lives. My brother-in-law's family crossed the border illegally out of dire necessity. However, they still have many others issues (managing money, working for awful bosses, living in crappy housing, family in-fighting, unhappy marriage, etc.) that they have struggled to fix. Some of these issues are so bad that it has led my brother-in-law to distance himself from some of them. So yes, they did a really hard thing to solve an extremely pressing problem, but it does not mean they have solved all of their problems. There is only so much one person can do to fix their life when there are many things wrong with it. They can usually only prioritize a couple of things.
- WalterBright 3y ago
  > I think you have a quite limited understanding of the funds and planning that go into crossing the border, and also how effectively people who make that crossing solve other issues in their lives. And yet they managed to do it. They could and did move to where there's more opportunity. > but it does not mean they have solved all of their problems Nobody solves all their problems. But they can prioritize, make a plan, and knock them down one at a time. Success isn't instant, either. Or do nothing and remain a victim. America was populated by Europeans arriving here with nothing. They worked their way into the middle class and the rich. The American West was populated by people walking across the continent. It's still happening today. People have choices.
  - RoyalHenOil 3y ago
    Then let me reiterate my original comment, because I don't understand your argument against it: >Humans have a limited amount of willpower. The average person can handle addressing a couple of these issues, but some people (especially the poor and the ill) have so many simultaneous issues that their willpower is too divided for them to make meaningful headway. I also want to mention (again) that immigrating long distances or across closed borders is not free. It's actually very expensive, and often more expensive when done illegally (since those helping you are assuming a personal risk). It is not something that poor people can do. Someone might make themselves poor doing it, but that doesn't mean that they started with nothing.