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> I did more research about it and discovered that Uyghurs (coming from Turkmenistan committed numerous terrorist attacks Then you didn’t do your research prop

> I did more research about it and discovered that Uyghurs (coming from Turkmenistan committed numerous terrorist attacks Then you didn’t do your research properly, Uyghur have concentration camps built for them in the last 5 years [1], women were sterilized [2] cultural destruction and forced labor [3] or rape [4] or even selling their organs like hair [5] or tracking Uyghur outside China [6] The thing about oppressed minorities is if you are not a minority, you won’t know it exists in your daily life (in this case, you are not an Uyghur), and with a big propaganda machine, a quick search won’t give you any accurate results, have you tried visiting that region, meeting with locals and try to investigate?! Most likely you will be kicked out by the government in no time if you did. Sure, other governments around the world did the same or worse like what you mentioned, but that doesn’t give an excuse for such thing, or being passive about a massacre as in “it is not coming from nowhere”.. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037.amp https://xjdp.aspi.org.au https://xjdp.aspi.org.au [2] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53220713 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53220713 [3] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/nz0g306v8c/china-tainted-cotton https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/nz0g306v8c/china-tainted-co... [4] https://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/genocide-select-committee-03242023125434.html/ampRFA https://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/genocide-select-comm... https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/4/uighur-tribunal-hears-evidence-of-alleged-china-abuses https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/4/uighur-tribunal-hear... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-5579407 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-5579407 [5] https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/us/china-hair-uyghur-cpb-trnd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/us/china-hair-uyghur-cpb-trnd... [6] https://time.com/6160282/arab-world-complicit-china-repression-uighurs/ https://time.com/6160282/arab-world-complicit-china-repressi...

soueuls 3y ago
I don't see any correlations between your comment and mine. I never claimed they were not oppressed, I just said that they did commit terrorist attacks in the past (and the media that talks about the Uyghurs issue, never mention it). I don't believe in the "if you are not a minority then [...]" This seems like a strange rhetoric to prevent people from debating anything. I am not a Uyghurs, I have talked with Uyghurs in Beijing, I did not visit the Xijiang region (and never claimed it either). My comment was clearly a : "From my own experience" it's literally the first words.
Alifatisk 3y ago
There was a bit of a discussion regarding this in another post (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37273507 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37273507) I myself believe there is something sus going on in Xinjiang, but it's hard to prove what exactly is going on and if something is going on, considering all the misinformation that is spreading from all sides. You cited rfa.org as your source which is US-funded news agency. You should be careful with citing sources from media outlets like CNN, BBC, NY Times, WSJ without being a little bit critical. The Victims database and XinJiang database project have allegedly had fabricated identities, witnesses & overall cases. The biggest challenge for me has been to find a reliable source without it coming indirectly or directly from the chinese gov. Anyways, here's where I got some of the information from (Chinese gov funded news) https://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201901/22/WS5c465e92a3106c65c34e5b91.html https://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201901/22/WS5c465e92a3106... This post walked through most accusations and explained how and why they are untrue (Notice that it's from the chinese gov, they even mentioned the CIA founded news org rfa.org) http://sydney.china-consulate.gov.cn/eng/zt/888j/202104/t20210429_8895312.htm http://sydney.china-consulate.gov.cn/eng/zt/888j/202104/t202... This document showcased some of incidents happening in Xinjiang and Chinas response to them, this document felt like the most neutral one. https://docs.uhrp.org/pdf/POLVReportFinal_2021-01-29.pdf https://docs.uhrp.org/pdf/POLVReportFinal_2021-01-29.pdf

soueuls 3y ago

I don't see any correlations between your comment and mine. I never claimed they were not oppressed, I just said that they did commit terrorist attacks in the past (and the media that talks about the Uyghurs issue, never mention it). I don't believe in the "if you are not a minority then [...]" This seems like a strange rhetoric to prevent people from debating anything. I am not a Uyghurs, I have talked with Uyghurs in Beijing, I did not visit the Xijiang region (and never claimed it either). My comment was clearly a : "From my own experience" it's literally the first words.

Alifatisk 3y ago

There was a bit of a discussion regarding this in another post (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37273507 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37273507) I myself believe there is something sus going on in Xinjiang, but it's hard to prove what exactly is going on and if something is going on, considering all the misinformation that is spreading from all sides. You cited rfa.org as your source which is US-funded news agency. You should be careful with citing sources from media outlets like CNN, BBC, NY Times, WSJ without being a little bit critical. The Victims database and XinJiang database project have allegedly had fabricated identities, witnesses & overall cases. The biggest challenge for me has been to find a reliable source without it coming indirectly or directly from the chinese gov. Anyways, here's where I got some of the information from (Chinese gov funded news) https://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201901/22/WS5c465e92a3106c65c34e5b91.html https://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201901/22/WS5c465e92a3106... This post walked through most accusations and explained how and why they are untrue (Notice that it's from the chinese gov, they even mentioned the CIA founded news org rfa.org) http://sydney.china-consulate.gov.cn/eng/zt/888j/202104/t20210429_8895312.htm http://sydney.china-consulate.gov.cn/eng/zt/888j/202104/t202... This document showcased some of incidents happening in Xinjiang and Chinas response to them, this document felt like the most neutral one. https://docs.uhrp.org/pdf/POLVReportFinal_2021-01-29.pdf https://docs.uhrp.org/pdf/POLVReportFinal_2021-01-29.pdf