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> The far bigger problem is people who think it is appropriate to respond to political speech with terrorism and murder. Nobody says the Islamists aren't the b

> The far bigger problem is people who think it is appropriate to respond to political speech with terrorism and murder. Nobody says the Islamists aren't the baddies, but the one trying to help them recruit to push their agenda aren't any better. And cooperation between those two faction is nothing new either, the guy who sold the weapons involved in Charlie Hebdo's terror attack was also a far right member[1]. [1] https://www.francetvinfo.fr/societe/justice/proces-des-attentats-de-janvier-2015/au-proces-des-attentats-de-janvier-2015-le-trafiquant-d-armes-claude-hermant-se-dedouane-de-toute-responsabilite-et-charge-la-police_4124947.html https://www.francetvinfo.fr/societe/justice/proces-des-atten...

SenAnder 3y ago
That article only says he is "on the far right", per the testimony of a police commissioner, and does not allege membership in any organization. The arms dealer himself claims he is far left, though he likely cannot be trusted. Regardless, he was an arms dealer and police informant long before that terror attack. I would not call selling arms without discrimination "cooperation".
- littlestymaar 3y ago
  I don't know what translator you use, but you should probably change it: - he doesn't claim to be “far left”, he claims to be moderate left (“I'm from the left” “I abhor all extremists”) (don't get confused by the “Communist” word later in that sentence, the French Communist party has been a center left party for more than 40 years now, and a former head of the PCF (Robert Hue) was supporting Macron in the last two elections. - it's not just a testimony of the police officer, he's being presented in the whole article as being a supremacists influential member.
  - SenAnder 3y ago
    I used Google translate. Outside of two or three sentences of police witnesses calling him far right, there was no other mention of his political activities or affiliations.
    - littlestymaar 3y ago
      in the subtitle: > à la fois figure de l'extrême droite lilloise And later in the text: > Mais cette figure des milieux identitaires du Nord This isn't just political affiliation, it means it's a well-known/prominent member of far right in the city of Lille. Also, this is just one article, this topic has received a lot of coverage in the French press, providing lots of additional details about his political background.[1] Overall you should probably avoid going full “well actually” when discussing internal politics of a foreign country with one of its citizen. [1]: for instance you could check this one: https://www.huffingtonpost.fr/actualites/article/qui-est-claude-hermant-detenu-pour-trafic-d-armes-et-soupconne-de-liens-avec-l-arsenal-d-amedy-coulibaly_68708.html https://www.huffingtonpost.fr/actualites/article/qui-est-cla...

SenAnder 3y ago

That article only says he is "on the far right", per the testimony of a police commissioner, and does not allege membership in any organization. The arms dealer himself claims he is far left, though he likely cannot be trusted. Regardless, he was an arms dealer and police informant long before that terror attack. I would not call selling arms without discrimination "cooperation".

littlestymaar 3y ago
I don't know what translator you use, but you should probably change it: - he doesn't claim to be “far left”, he claims to be moderate left (“I'm from the left” “I abhor all extremists”) (don't get confused by the “Communist” word later in that sentence, the French Communist party has been a center left party for more than 40 years now, and a former head of the PCF (Robert Hue) was supporting Macron in the last two elections. - it's not just a testimony of the police officer, he's being presented in the whole article as being a supremacists influential member.
- SenAnder 3y ago
  I used Google translate. Outside of two or three sentences of police witnesses calling him far right, there was no other mention of his political activities or affiliations.
  - littlestymaar 3y ago
    in the subtitle: > à la fois figure de l'extrême droite lilloise And later in the text: > Mais cette figure des milieux identitaires du Nord This isn't just political affiliation, it means it's a well-known/prominent member of far right in the city of Lille. Also, this is just one article, this topic has received a lot of coverage in the French press, providing lots of additional details about his political background.[1] Overall you should probably avoid going full “well actually” when discussing internal politics of a foreign country with one of its citizen. [1]: for instance you could check this one: https://www.huffingtonpost.fr/actualites/article/qui-est-claude-hermant-detenu-pour-trafic-d-armes-et-soupconne-de-liens-avec-l-arsenal-d-amedy-coulibaly_68708.html https://www.huffingtonpost.fr/actualites/article/qui-est-cla...