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The Netherlands also had a lot of pissed off moms who were furious that drivers kept slaughtering their children. It didn't come easy, there were fistfights ove

The Netherlands also had a lot of pissed off moms who were furious that drivers kept slaughtering their children. It didn't come easy, there were fistfights over it. https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/may/05/amsterdam-bicycle-capital-world-transport-cycling-kindermoord https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/may/05/amsterdam-bic... But a lot of kids are alive who would be dead without their efforts.

Retric 3y ago
Moms in the Netherlands aren’t that different from moms around the world, and it’s rather insulting to suggest they are. EX: MADD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_Against_Drunk_Driving https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_Against_Drunk_Driving The difference is how much kids where biking, which has a lot to do with the utility of biking in a flat high density country. Utility -> Use -> Risk -> Deaths -> Change
- CalRobert 3y ago
  Yet the US also had high rates of walking and biking among kids in the past. https://www.walkbiketoschool.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Walking-to-school-research-1.pdf https://www.walkbiketoschool.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/... """ In 1969, 48 percent of students in grades K through eight (ages 5 through 14) walked or bicycled to school.1  In 2009, only 13 percent of students in grades K through eight walked or bicycled to school.1  In 1969, 89 percent of students in grades K through eight who lived within one mile of school usually walked or bicycled to school.2  In 2009, only 35 percent students in grades K through eight students who lived within a mile of school usually walked or bicycled to school even once a week. """
  - Retric 3y ago
    Getting to and from school was safer than walking around normally due to crossing guards. This is a global phenomenon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_guard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_guard From an American perspective the temptation is to bring up suburbs etc, but being bike unfriendly is a global thing. It’s really about the physical effort to travel X distance and therefore the reasonableness of biking such distances to see a friend.

Retric 3y ago

Moms in the Netherlands aren’t that different from moms around the world, and it’s rather insulting to suggest they are. EX: MADD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_Against_Drunk_Driving https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_Against_Drunk_Driving The difference is how much kids where biking, which has a lot to do with the utility of biking in a flat high density country. Utility -> Use -> Risk -> Deaths -> Change

CalRobert 3y ago
Yet the US also had high rates of walking and biking among kids in the past. https://www.walkbiketoschool.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Walking-to-school-research-1.pdf https://www.walkbiketoschool.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/... """ In 1969, 48 percent of students in grades K through eight (ages 5 through 14) walked or bicycled to school.1  In 2009, only 13 percent of students in grades K through eight walked or bicycled to school.1  In 1969, 89 percent of students in grades K through eight who lived within one mile of school usually walked or bicycled to school.2  In 2009, only 35 percent students in grades K through eight students who lived within a mile of school usually walked or bicycled to school even once a week. """
- Retric 3y ago
  Getting to and from school was safer than walking around normally due to crossing guards. This is a global phenomenon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_guard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_guard From an American perspective the temptation is to bring up suburbs etc, but being bike unfriendly is a global thing. It’s really about the physical effort to travel X distance and therefore the reasonableness of biking such distances to see a friend.