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> I've known homeschooled kids that are easily 2 grades ahead of where they would be at a typical public school - and with no social shortcomings whatsoever Fo

> I've known homeschooled kids that are easily 2 grades ahead of where they would be at a typical public school - and with no social shortcomings whatsoever For certain kids school is holding them up But that’s the problem with a standardization. What are the odds that all kids need the same amount of time for all subjects Initially everyone was home schooled. The school system is a feature & bug of scaling up

varjag 3y ago
Initially everyone was illiterate, except the lucky few in position of wealth.
- danans 3y ago
  Going back far enough in parts of the world, even the wealthy were illiterate, which is why they employed scribes.
BeetleB 3y ago
> But that’s the problem with a standardization. What are the odds that all kids need the same amount of time for all subjects They acknowledge that, but it doesn't change the thought process, right? If I know my kids can learn 70% more than they do in public schools, and have all the skills/tools to provide it to them, I don't care about the reason schools are inefficient. The sentiment that homeschooling parents has is that public schools time things to target below average students. That's wildly inefficient. Couple it with a reluctance to hold back students and it gets even more inefficient. I went to a private school. For certain key subjects (history, math, science, etc), if you failed just one subject you get held back and have to repeat the whole year. As a student, this was fantastic. It means if your class got stuck with a "troublemaker" who was poor academically and disruptive, you wouldn't have to put up with him for more than a year. He would either shape up eventually or keep failing till the parents pulled him out because it's too expensive.
- foogazi 3y ago
  > For certain key subjects (history, math, science, etc), if you failed just one subject you get held back and have to repeat the whole year. Insane
  - BeetleB 3y ago
    They did give you a chance to do a makeup exam at the end of the summer. If you passed it, you'd get to go to the next year. I don't find it insane at all. Well, perhaps for the lower grades, but once you're in the 5th or 6th grade, the kids are mature enough to handle it. As are their parents. In my class, failures weren't that common - perhaps less than 5% of kids - although there was a sharp increase in the 9th grade, which is when the subjects get considerably more difficult (and I guess kids' hormones kick in).
User23 3y ago
Classroom instruction has to be at a pace that the slowest member of the class can follow. This inevitably leaves the brighter children frustrated, to say the least.

varjag 3y ago

Initially everyone was illiterate, except the lucky few in position of wealth.

danans 3y ago
Going back far enough in parts of the world, even the wealthy were illiterate, which is why they employed scribes.

BeetleB 3y ago

> But that’s the problem with a standardization. What are the odds that all kids need the same amount of time for all subjects They acknowledge that, but it doesn't change the thought process, right? If I know my kids can learn 70% more than they do in public schools, and have all the skills/tools to provide it to them, I don't care about the reason schools are inefficient. The sentiment that homeschooling parents has is that public schools time things to target below average students. That's wildly inefficient. Couple it with a reluctance to hold back students and it gets even more inefficient. I went to a private school. For certain key subjects (history, math, science, etc), if you failed just one subject you get held back and have to repeat the whole year. As a student, this was fantastic. It means if your class got stuck with a "troublemaker" who was poor academically and disruptive, you wouldn't have to put up with him for more than a year. He would either shape up eventually or keep failing till the parents pulled him out because it's too expensive.

foogazi 3y ago
> For certain key subjects (history, math, science, etc), if you failed just one subject you get held back and have to repeat the whole year. Insane
- BeetleB 3y ago
  They did give you a chance to do a makeup exam at the end of the summer. If you passed it, you'd get to go to the next year. I don't find it insane at all. Well, perhaps for the lower grades, but once you're in the 5th or 6th grade, the kids are mature enough to handle it. As are their parents. In my class, failures weren't that common - perhaps less than 5% of kids - although there was a sharp increase in the 9th grade, which is when the subjects get considerably more difficult (and I guess kids' hormones kick in).

User23 3y ago

Classroom instruction has to be at a pace that the slowest member of the class can follow. This inevitably leaves the brighter children frustrated, to say the least.