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And yet if you want your app to be listed on the iPhone App Store, it must be equally functional if the user denies location. So, I always do it, and have no pr

And yet if you want your app to be listed on the iPhone App Store, it must be equally functional if the user denies location. So, I always do it, and have no problems, although sometimes it is slightly more annoying to use the app.

bombcar 3y ago
Almost any non-mapping application for location is just as well served by “zip-code”.
- Kwpolska 3y ago
  I’d rather not be picked up by Uber at the middle of whichever area shares my postal code, and I’d rather not get my food delivered there. On the other hand, postal codes can sometimes apply to a handful of buildings, and sometimes can apply to entire cities, depending on the country and local area, so they can either be very unhelpful or almost as invasive as sharing your precise location.
  - gabereiser 3y ago
    There are entire counties here in the US with the same zip code. Varying by miles. So yeah, it’s not a reliable source of location for delivery purposes without a complete address.
    - wlonkly 3y ago
      It fails in the other direction in Canada, where a specific postal code works like a 9+4 zip code, in that it might identify one side of one block of a street, so it doesn't give you much additional privacy through precision loss anyway.
      - gabereiser 3y ago
        The US does that too in most places. 5+4 zip codes. It's still not enough and suffers the same precision issues and we (the USA) are woefully ill-prepared for the housing build out boom that will happen in the next decade. We need a better system. We will exhaust our zip codes like we have our IPv4 addresses.
        wlonkly 3y ago
        Oops, right, 5+4, not 9+4. Counting is hard. But yeah, what I meant to express was that Canada doesn't have a lower-precision version in regular use.
        bombcar 3y ago
        Zip codes don't need to identify buildings, they need to identify post offices (and with +4, mail carrier routes). That's a much smaller number.
  - bombcar 3y ago
    Uber and delivery are both mapping applications. Pickup from McDonald’s is not, at most there will be two or four in a zip code.
    - gabereiser 3y ago
      There’s a county in CA, one zip code, 14 McDonald’s. Another in TX, 8 McDonald’s. Another in FL, 10 McDonald’s.

bombcar 3y ago

Almost any non-mapping application for location is just as well served by “zip-code”.

Kwpolska 3y ago
I’d rather not be picked up by Uber at the middle of whichever area shares my postal code, and I’d rather not get my food delivered there. On the other hand, postal codes can sometimes apply to a handful of buildings, and sometimes can apply to entire cities, depending on the country and local area, so they can either be very unhelpful or almost as invasive as sharing your precise location.
- gabereiser 3y ago
  There are entire counties here in the US with the same zip code. Varying by miles. So yeah, it’s not a reliable source of location for delivery purposes without a complete address.
  - wlonkly 3y ago
    It fails in the other direction in Canada, where a specific postal code works like a 9+4 zip code, in that it might identify one side of one block of a street, so it doesn't give you much additional privacy through precision loss anyway.
    - gabereiser 3y ago
      The US does that too in most places. 5+4 zip codes. It's still not enough and suffers the same precision issues and we (the USA) are woefully ill-prepared for the housing build out boom that will happen in the next decade. We need a better system. We will exhaust our zip codes like we have our IPv4 addresses.
      - wlonkly 3y ago
        Oops, right, 5+4, not 9+4. Counting is hard. But yeah, what I meant to express was that Canada doesn't have a lower-precision version in regular use.
      - bombcar 3y ago
        Zip codes don't need to identify buildings, they need to identify post offices (and with +4, mail carrier routes). That's a much smaller number.
- bombcar 3y ago
  Uber and delivery are both mapping applications. Pickup from McDonald’s is not, at most there will be two or four in a zip code.
  - gabereiser 3y ago
    There’s a county in CA, one zip code, 14 McDonald’s. Another in TX, 8 McDonald’s. Another in FL, 10 McDonald’s.