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other countries don't care about copyright interpretations. next you'll suggest global government. the internet always was a wild west and i do not particularly

other countries don't care about copyright interpretations. next you'll suggest global government. the internet always was a wild west and i do not particularly enjoy contemplating a scenario in which this ceases to be

Nevermark 3y ago
Whatever things are morphing into, it isn’t a “Wild West”. Unless you think of feudalism or indentured servitude as Wild or Western. It’s a place of a few royal palaces, with walls & moats, surrounded by the masses who submit the value of their creative & social efforts through little slots, for the right to receive in kind from others, but filtered & diluted with whatever the royalty wants you to see and hear. The evolution of aggregation sites is not on a path that enhances or maintains individual freedoms or independence. Amazon charging suppliers a fee for NOT using its services ought to be an Onion article. [0] [0] https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/16/23834653/amazon-seller-fees-shipping-fulfillment https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/16/23834653/amazon-seller-fe...
- iraqmtpizza 3y ago
  >a decision Bloomberg says Amazon made to satisfy regulators Regulators are out of control, yes. But that does not change the fundamental nature of the internet. Especially as it pertains to something which is purely data, copyrighted material. Amazon is not stopping filipino and bulgarian kids from downloading mission impossible any time soon. Nor is it stopping people from bulgaria from paying for AI services in the Philippines which are trained on American data.
  - Nevermark 3y ago
    Amazon, Facebook, etc. don’t want to kill off anyone or their economic presence. Any more than a Duke or Earl wants to kill off peasants or stop them from playing and singing with their families in the evening. The lords just want to extract most of the value that they create, most of the value that they spend, and let them see what the lord wants them to see, an increasing percentage of time.
    - iraqmtpizza 3y ago
      All low-grade conspiracy theories hyperfocus on motivation. If motivation alone could move the world, some serial killer in some prison in the desert would have destroyed the Earth with his mind powers long ago.
noduerme 3y ago
The problem is that it is global government, if your local police assist American corporations in seizing your assets for setting up a server far away in another country that downloads public social media profiles. It's just not a global government that anyone whose net worth is < $1B has any influence upon.
- iraqmtpizza 3y ago
  there is no conceivable global government that would care at all about a random guy on an island with no money
csomar 3y ago
Most of the important countries (except China) do care about copyright, patents and such. Though they were mostly implementing western laws through both influence and threats.
- iraqmtpizza 3y ago
  It doesn't matter who the important countries are militarily if Argentina and Kazakhstan are the ones which have no enforced rules on training AI on foreign data.

Nevermark 3y ago

Whatever things are morphing into, it isn’t a “Wild West”. Unless you think of feudalism or indentured servitude as Wild or Western. It’s a place of a few royal palaces, with walls & moats, surrounded by the masses who submit the value of their creative & social efforts through little slots, for the right to receive in kind from others, but filtered & diluted with whatever the royalty wants you to see and hear. The evolution of aggregation sites is not on a path that enhances or maintains individual freedoms or independence. Amazon charging suppliers a fee for NOT using its services ought to be an Onion article. [0] [0] https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/16/23834653/amazon-seller-fees-shipping-fulfillment https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/16/23834653/amazon-seller-fe...

iraqmtpizza 3y ago
>a decision Bloomberg says Amazon made to satisfy regulators Regulators are out of control, yes. But that does not change the fundamental nature of the internet. Especially as it pertains to something which is purely data, copyrighted material. Amazon is not stopping filipino and bulgarian kids from downloading mission impossible any time soon. Nor is it stopping people from bulgaria from paying for AI services in the Philippines which are trained on American data.
- Nevermark 3y ago
  Amazon, Facebook, etc. don’t want to kill off anyone or their economic presence. Any more than a Duke or Earl wants to kill off peasants or stop them from playing and singing with their families in the evening. The lords just want to extract most of the value that they create, most of the value that they spend, and let them see what the lord wants them to see, an increasing percentage of time.
  - iraqmtpizza 3y ago
    All low-grade conspiracy theories hyperfocus on motivation. If motivation alone could move the world, some serial killer in some prison in the desert would have destroyed the Earth with his mind powers long ago.

noduerme 3y ago

The problem is that it is global government, if your local police assist American corporations in seizing your assets for setting up a server far away in another country that downloads public social media profiles. It's just not a global government that anyone whose net worth is < $1B has any influence upon.

iraqmtpizza 3y ago
there is no conceivable global government that would care at all about a random guy on an island with no money

csomar 3y ago

Most of the important countries (except China) do care about copyright, patents and such. Though they were mostly implementing western laws through both influence and threats.

iraqmtpizza 3y ago
It doesn't matter who the important countries are militarily if Argentina and Kazakhstan are the ones which have no enforced rules on training AI on foreign data.