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The megacorporations are at war against humanity and won't stop until forced: they must profit and grow at the expense of civilization, climate, and biosphere.

The megacorporations are at war against humanity and won't stop until forced: they must profit and grow at the expense of civilization, climate, and biosphere. It's true the EU does not recognize it's in a war yet but they are at least trying to slow them down. The US is further behind.

kmlx 3y ago
wait till you find out about politicians. the corps have nothing on them.
- t0bia_s 3y ago
  Really? How about that politicians constantly spamming antisocial networks? What would they do without those tech corpos? Big tech literary give them a power. And manipulate with politicians as well. You'll not free once you caught into trap of likes and virtual audience dopamine.
  - kmlx 3y ago
    that’s exactly my point. they took that power that those companies gave them and used it for their own goals. they’re infinitely worse than any company just by the power they yield. the abuse part is the cherry on top.
mantas 3y ago
Is EU really trying to slow it down? TikTok ban in US seems to be a common talking point. Meanwhile here very few people talk about it and those are seen as lunatics in most cases. Most people seem to happily approve all the GDPR dialogs too. While doomscrolling TikTok/Instagram/FB.
- LelouBil 3y ago
  When you have a truly compliant gdpr dialog, aka simple yes/no, I found lots of non tech people around me click no. I'd say about 50%
  - developer93 3y ago
    Personally I nearly always take the time to scroll through and untick all the permissions, or find a different site because screw them, that's why. I realise I'm in the minority.
    - malermeister 3y ago
      https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/consent-o-matic/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/consent-o-mat... This should make it a lot easier :) It auto-handles most gdpr permission walls, and yes, you can set it to reject all - that's what I do! (I'm sure this exists for Chrome, too, but if you care about this sort of thing you really should be using Firefox!)
      - drakonka 3y ago
        Thank you for this; I've been manually unticking everything since these regulations came into effect and have to admit it was getting a bit tiring (plus sometimes I was too hasty and accidentally clicked "Accept" when the cookie buttons were in a weird order or had non-standard wording.) I hope this helps me decline all the things more efficiently.
        folmar 3y ago
        Just remove the dialogs with ublock filters; this is supposed to mean no consent. Most spy networks don't care and track before you click anyway.
      - developer93 3y ago
        Well, that made me unreasonably happy, thank you Edit: and then realise it's not applicable to android Firefox where I do most of my browsing, but thank you anyway.
      - rcMgD2BwE72F 3y ago
        I much prefer https://github.com/OhMyGuus/I-Still-Dont-Care-About-Cookies https://github.com/OhMyGuus/I-Still-Dont-Care-About-Cookies (far more reliable in my experience)
- denton-scratch 3y ago
  > Most people seem to happily approve all the GDPR dialogs too. What's a "GDPR dialog"? Do you mean a cookie banner? Nothing in GDPR requires a cookie banner.
  - mantas 3y ago
    The cookie banner 2.0. Where you either approve all the „recommended“ tracking. Or have to go to advanced dialog, uncheck all trackers and then click non-primary submit button.
    - martin8412 3y ago
      Which is illegal.
      - tick_tock_tick 3y ago
        Except it's not. Which is why people aren't being punished for it and more sites adopt it daily.
        dns_snek 3y ago
        Opting out must be just as easy as opting in. Companies aren't being punished for it often enough (yet), that is true, but it's absolutely illegal.
        Sayrus 3y ago
        There may not be many fines but Facebook, Google, TikTok and Microsoft were all fined due to making it hard to refuse cookies. Amazon was also fined for not properly asking consent. If I remember correctly, one of the company making those annoying cookies banners where you have a list of trackers to uncheck was also fined for this behavior. It is illegal to not offer a clear and unambiguous opt out.
        Xelbair 3y ago
        >If informed consent is used as the lawful basis for processing, consent must have been explicit for data collected and each purpose data is used for (Article 7; defined in Article 4).[11][12] Consent must be a specific, freely given, plainly worded, and unambiguous affirmation given by the data subject; an online form which has consent options structured as an opt-out selected by default is a violation of the GDPR, as the consent is not unambiguously affirmed by the user. In addition, multiple types of processing may not be "bundled" together into a single affirmation prompt, as this is not specific to each use of data, and the individual permissions are not freely given. (Recital 32)
- HWR_14 3y ago
  I thought only 10-15% of people approved all GDPR dialogs.
- saiya-jin 3y ago
  The only reason TikTok was banned in US is because its Chinese company. Have you completely missed all-out trade/informational/technology war US has declared on China in past few years? Huawei, ban on chips and so on and on. Facebook is doing exactly the same and wish to emulate TikTok as much as possible, sharing all data with US 3-letter agencies as required (most probably meaning everything all the time). They are just behind and lost the social momentum. Haven't heard anything about Meta products ban in US, probably because it will never ever happen.
  - mantas 3y ago
    And here in europe we can’t even deal with the Chinese because muh German car market. Let alone local and murican corporations who have a lot of leverage.
ThomPete 3y ago
Replace megacorp with capitalist and humanity with workers and you got a perfect foundation for a communist revolution. Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it.

kmlx 3y ago

wait till you find out about politicians. the corps have nothing on them.

t0bia_s 3y ago
Really? How about that politicians constantly spamming antisocial networks? What would they do without those tech corpos? Big tech literary give them a power. And manipulate with politicians as well. You'll not free once you caught into trap of likes and virtual audience dopamine.
- kmlx 3y ago
  that’s exactly my point. they took that power that those companies gave them and used it for their own goals. they’re infinitely worse than any company just by the power they yield. the abuse part is the cherry on top.

mantas 3y ago

Is EU really trying to slow it down? TikTok ban in US seems to be a common talking point. Meanwhile here very few people talk about it and those are seen as lunatics in most cases. Most people seem to happily approve all the GDPR dialogs too. While doomscrolling TikTok/Instagram/FB.

LelouBil 3y ago
When you have a truly compliant gdpr dialog, aka simple yes/no, I found lots of non tech people around me click no. I'd say about 50%
- developer93 3y ago
  Personally I nearly always take the time to scroll through and untick all the permissions, or find a different site because screw them, that's why. I realise I'm in the minority.
  - malermeister 3y ago
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/consent-o-matic/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/consent-o-mat... This should make it a lot easier :) It auto-handles most gdpr permission walls, and yes, you can set it to reject all - that's what I do! (I'm sure this exists for Chrome, too, but if you care about this sort of thing you really should be using Firefox!)
    - drakonka 3y ago
      Thank you for this; I've been manually unticking everything since these regulations came into effect and have to admit it was getting a bit tiring (plus sometimes I was too hasty and accidentally clicked "Accept" when the cookie buttons were in a weird order or had non-standard wording.) I hope this helps me decline all the things more efficiently.
      - folmar 3y ago
        Just remove the dialogs with ublock filters; this is supposed to mean no consent. Most spy networks don't care and track before you click anyway.
    - developer93 3y ago
      Well, that made me unreasonably happy, thank you Edit: and then realise it's not applicable to android Firefox where I do most of my browsing, but thank you anyway.
    - rcMgD2BwE72F 3y ago
      I much prefer https://github.com/OhMyGuus/I-Still-Dont-Care-About-Cookies https://github.com/OhMyGuus/I-Still-Dont-Care-About-Cookies (far more reliable in my experience)
denton-scratch 3y ago
> Most people seem to happily approve all the GDPR dialogs too. What's a "GDPR dialog"? Do you mean a cookie banner? Nothing in GDPR requires a cookie banner.
- mantas 3y ago
  The cookie banner 2.0. Where you either approve all the „recommended“ tracking. Or have to go to advanced dialog, uncheck all trackers and then click non-primary submit button.
  - martin8412 3y ago
    Which is illegal.
    - tick_tock_tick 3y ago
      Except it's not. Which is why people aren't being punished for it and more sites adopt it daily.
      - dns_snek 3y ago
        Opting out must be just as easy as opting in. Companies aren't being punished for it often enough (yet), that is true, but it's absolutely illegal.
      - Sayrus 3y ago
        There may not be many fines but Facebook, Google, TikTok and Microsoft were all fined due to making it hard to refuse cookies. Amazon was also fined for not properly asking consent. If I remember correctly, one of the company making those annoying cookies banners where you have a list of trackers to uncheck was also fined for this behavior. It is illegal to not offer a clear and unambiguous opt out.
      - Xelbair 3y ago
        >If informed consent is used as the lawful basis for processing, consent must have been explicit for data collected and each purpose data is used for (Article 7; defined in Article 4).[11][12] Consent must be a specific, freely given, plainly worded, and unambiguous affirmation given by the data subject; an online form which has consent options structured as an opt-out selected by default is a violation of the GDPR, as the consent is not unambiguously affirmed by the user. In addition, multiple types of processing may not be "bundled" together into a single affirmation prompt, as this is not specific to each use of data, and the individual permissions are not freely given. (Recital 32)
HWR_14 3y ago
I thought only 10-15% of people approved all GDPR dialogs.
saiya-jin 3y ago
The only reason TikTok was banned in US is because its Chinese company. Have you completely missed all-out trade/informational/technology war US has declared on China in past few years? Huawei, ban on chips and so on and on. Facebook is doing exactly the same and wish to emulate TikTok as much as possible, sharing all data with US 3-letter agencies as required (most probably meaning everything all the time). They are just behind and lost the social momentum. Haven't heard anything about Meta products ban in US, probably because it will never ever happen.
- mantas 3y ago
  And here in europe we can’t even deal with the Chinese because muh German car market. Let alone local and murican corporations who have a lot of leverage.

ThomPete 3y ago

Replace megacorp with capitalist and humanity with workers and you got a perfect foundation for a communist revolution. Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it.