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>The United States is one of just a handful of countries — others include India, Pakistan, Suriname, and Papua New Guinea — that have no national policy guarant
by memefrog 3y ago
>The United States is one of just a handful of countries — others include India, Pakistan, Suriname, and Papua New Guinea — that have no national policy guaranteeing workers paid annual leave. (It’s also among the few with no federal laws guaranteeing paid parental leave or paid sick days.) Any benefit offered to workers, like paid time off, is entirely up to the discretion of private employers.
It's not "up to the discretion of private employers". It is up to the contractual arrangement between an employee and his employer.
The USA is a huge place. It isn't obvious to me that there should be national laws for things like this. This is exactly the sort of thing you'd expect to be set on a state-by-state basis.
- SketchySeaBeast 3y agoIt seems that there could be at least a minimum, something like 5 days. If not, what demographic factors in a state would you consider valid to deny any paid time off?
- asu_thomas 3y agoThere is no moral rationale for either side, only a conflict between classes.
- SketchySeaBeast 3y ago> This is exactly the sort of thing you'd expect to be set on a state-by-state basis. There was no mention of "moral rationale" in the original discussion.
- memefrog 3y agoIf they don't have paid time off then clearly they don't value it. Any state legislature could pass legislation creating that rule. Maybe let people democratically choose their own rules
- SketchySeaBeast 3y agoWhy is a federal rule undemocratic but a state rule democratic? If the federal government ran with that as part of their platform that would be democratic, no?
- Nullabillity 3y ago> The USA is a huge place. It isn't obvious to me that there should be national laws for things like this. The USA is still pretty tiny compared to basically the rest of the world.
- wil421 3y agoThe 3rd largest country by land and population is not what many would consider tiny by any means.
- SketchySeaBeast 3y agoBut even the larger countries measured by population or land have rules.
- dantheman 3y agoYeah, and they're poor. The US constitution doesn't give the federal government authority to do this, and rightly so.
- DiogenesKynikos 3y agoThere are also countries that are much richer than the US, yet they still have stronger worker protections. Unless the US is some sort of Goldilocks country, with just the right combination of development and size, then there's no reason why it can't have things like nationally mandated paid time off.
- maxerickson 3y agoWhich countries and what measures of wealth? For example median income in the US is higher than Luxembourg and Norway.
- DiogenesKynikos 3y ago
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- 4lb0 3y agoBrazil is also a huge place. The European Union is also a huge place.
- mmcnl 3y agoFundamental worker rights should be covered in a national law. The EU is huge as well, and economically and culturally and order of magnitude more diverse than the US, and every worker in the EU is entitled to at least 4 weeks of paid time off. I don't see why this wouldn't be possible in the US.