Shipping bad code fast and with little understanding isn't really what I'm talking about. I would say the kind of frontend developers you're describing lack hub

Shipping bad code fast and with little understanding isn't really what I'm talking about. I would say the kind of frontend developers you're describing lack hubris; the ones I'm talking about (which are all over the stack but I would say somewhat concentrated in the middleware-to-commodity-backend, Spring Boot, etc. area) lack laziness.