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Elon's doing so many things that will gut Twitter/X. When he gives up trying, what lessons will he learn? This is my breaking point. I will not give up anonymi

Elon's doing so many things that will gut Twitter/X. When he gives up trying, what lessons will he learn? This is my breaking point. I will not give up anonymity on this platform.

mgiannopoulos 3y ago
It’s not going to be a requirement
jonas21 3y ago
You don't have to. It's only if you want the blue checkmark.
- XorNot 3y ago
  Twitter/X needs the money from checkmarks more then anyone needs checkmarks.
  - polynomial 3y ago
    What is the term for when the later party doesn't realize this? (While the former presumably does.)
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    - dbtc 3y ago
      opportunity
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paganel 3y ago
> Elon's doing so many things that will gut Twitter/X. They've just been on the front-page of all the Western media today, from the FT, to BBC to the NYTimes, they're doing quite all-right. Meanwhile I realized today that I have genuinely forgotten the name of the Twitter clone put forward by Zuckerberg, C...something. Ah, no, I've just googled it now, it's Threads. Yeah, that project is dead in the water.
- threeseed 3y ago
  a) Twitter/X is not doing okay. They are valued at 1/3rd of what the company was purchased at. And their ill-conceived rebrand has seen them plummet on App Store charts indicating that many people don't know that it even happened. b) After its initial peak Threads started to lose users largely because of missing features e.g. web app, search, hashtags, chronological sort etc. One by one these are being added and users are slowly coming back. Meta is not going to kill Threads whilst it is providing rich behavioural data into their Instagram/Facebook ad serving.
  - arp242 3y ago
    > They are valued at 1/3rd of what the company was purchased at That's not really a very useful metric, because Musk paid way too much for it in the first place, and even without that it was probably overvalued to start with (IMHO). Besides, in the end a valuation, especially for a private company like Twitter/X, is not really all that useful and just a bunch of people going "well, I'd pay this much for it, I guess..." I don't know if Twitter is doing okay or not, but I do know this is not a good metric.
    - threeseed 3y ago
      Valuations are important when your business is unprofitable, core advertising revenue has cratered and new revenue streams eg. subscriptions have been a complete failure. They are what investors will be looking at to decide if Twitter/X heads into bankruptcy or fights to live another day.
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tjrgergw 3y ago
> Elon's doing so many things that will gut Twitter I keep hearing this, but people keep using Twitter.
- appplication 3y ago
  Many people have also stopped using twitter. A decline is just that: a decline.
  - MichaelZuo 3y ago
    Do you have a source that they outnumber the people who newly signed up?
    - appplication 3y ago
      Engagement down 5.5% YoY, advertising revenue down 50% (per Musk): https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-traffic-falls-under-elon-musk-threads-mastodon-bluesky-competition/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-traffic-falls-under-elo...
confoundcofound 3y ago
You’re virtue signaling, plain and simple. No one is forcing you to be verified. It is not mandatory to use the platform. That he’s “gutting” Twitter seems more like something you hope to see, not something that’s actually happening.
- VancouverMan 3y ago
  > No one is forcing you to be verified. It is not mandatory to use the platform. I don't find that kind of an argument very convincing. It doesn't seem to hold true in the long run. In the early days of the web, a username and password were typically enough for creating an account for the web sites that even required an account in the first place. Then more and more sites started also requiring an email address be provided to create and/or keep using an existing account. Then more and more sites started also requiring a phone number. Then more and more sites started also requiring a real name. Now more and more sites want to see some sort of government-issued ID. Over time, more and more personal and private information seems to be demanded in order to use many web sites. Even if some particular piece of information isn't demanded today, it seems likely enough to me that it will be demanded in the future.
sschueller 3y ago
IMO Twitter would be long backrupt if it wasn't for the idiot investors that loaned Elon all that money. They are so deep in the shit they are doing everything to keep this house of cards from collapsing and wiping them out in hopes of some miracle that Elon can turn this thing into a cash cow down the road.

Elon's doing so many things that will gut Twitter/X. When he gives up trying, what lessons will he learn? This is my breaking point. I will not give up anonymity on this platform.

mgiannopoulos 3y ago

It’s not going to be a requirement

jonas21 3y ago

You don't have to. It's only if you want the blue checkmark.

XorNot 3y ago
Twitter/X needs the money from checkmarks more then anyone needs checkmarks.
- polynomial 3y ago
  What is the term for when the later party doesn't realize this? (While the former presumably does.)
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  - dbtc 3y ago
    opportunity
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paganel 3y ago

> Elon's doing so many things that will gut Twitter/X. They've just been on the front-page of all the Western media today, from the FT, to BBC to the NYTimes, they're doing quite all-right. Meanwhile I realized today that I have genuinely forgotten the name of the Twitter clone put forward by Zuckerberg, C...something. Ah, no, I've just googled it now, it's Threads. Yeah, that project is dead in the water.

threeseed 3y ago
a) Twitter/X is not doing okay. They are valued at 1/3rd of what the company was purchased at. And their ill-conceived rebrand has seen them plummet on App Store charts indicating that many people don't know that it even happened. b) After its initial peak Threads started to lose users largely because of missing features e.g. web app, search, hashtags, chronological sort etc. One by one these are being added and users are slowly coming back. Meta is not going to kill Threads whilst it is providing rich behavioural data into their Instagram/Facebook ad serving.
- arp242 3y ago
  > They are valued at 1/3rd of what the company was purchased at That's not really a very useful metric, because Musk paid way too much for it in the first place, and even without that it was probably overvalued to start with (IMHO). Besides, in the end a valuation, especially for a private company like Twitter/X, is not really all that useful and just a bunch of people going "well, I'd pay this much for it, I guess..." I don't know if Twitter is doing okay or not, but I do know this is not a good metric.
  - threeseed 3y ago
    Valuations are important when your business is unprofitable, core advertising revenue has cratered and new revenue streams eg. subscriptions have been a complete failure. They are what investors will be looking at to decide if Twitter/X heads into bankruptcy or fights to live another day.
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tjrgergw 3y ago

> Elon's doing so many things that will gut Twitter I keep hearing this, but people keep using Twitter.

appplication 3y ago
Many people have also stopped using twitter. A decline is just that: a decline.
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  Do you have a source that they outnumber the people who newly signed up?
  - appplication 3y ago
    Engagement down 5.5% YoY, advertising revenue down 50% (per Musk): https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-traffic-falls-under-elon-musk-threads-mastodon-bluesky-competition/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-traffic-falls-under-elo...

confoundcofound 3y ago

You’re virtue signaling, plain and simple. No one is forcing you to be verified. It is not mandatory to use the platform. That he’s “gutting” Twitter seems more like something you hope to see, not something that’s actually happening.

VancouverMan 3y ago
> No one is forcing you to be verified. It is not mandatory to use the platform. I don't find that kind of an argument very convincing. It doesn't seem to hold true in the long run. In the early days of the web, a username and password were typically enough for creating an account for the web sites that even required an account in the first place. Then more and more sites started also requiring an email address be provided to create and/or keep using an existing account. Then more and more sites started also requiring a phone number. Then more and more sites started also requiring a real name. Now more and more sites want to see some sort of government-issued ID. Over time, more and more personal and private information seems to be demanded in order to use many web sites. Even if some particular piece of information isn't demanded today, it seems likely enough to me that it will be demanded in the future.

sschueller 3y ago

IMO Twitter would be long backrupt if it wasn't for the idiot investors that loaned Elon all that money. They are so deep in the shit they are doing everything to keep this house of cards from collapsing and wiping them out in hopes of some miracle that Elon can turn this thing into a cash cow down the road.