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Reminder that the "border" (zone) is / can be considered 100 mi (160 km) inland: * https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone https://www.aclu.org/know-

Reminder that the "border" (zone) is / can be considered 100 mi (160 km) inland: * https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone * https://elibrary.law.psu.edu/pslr/vol124/iss2/3/ https://elibrary.law.psu.edu/pslr/vol124/iss2/3/ * https://ballsandstrikes.org/legal-culture/border-patrol-100-mile-zone-explainer/ https://ballsandstrikes.org/legal-culture/border-patrol-100-... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception

jfoutz 3y ago
Does that apply to international airports?
Tostino 3y ago
A.k.a pretty much the entire state of FL.
- loeg 3y ago
  Something like 200 million Americans live in this zone near a border.
  - patmorgan23 3y ago
    And the population of the US is approx 330 million
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Avshalom 3y ago
"international airports" also count as borders
- bumbledraven 3y ago
  Not for the purpose of the 100 mile border zone rule, apparently.
bumbledraven 3y ago
Interesting. I was wondering why the 100 mile border zone extends acoss California almost all the way to Reno, Nevada, and I found this (https://law.stackexchange.com/a/43233 https://law.stackexchange.com/a/43233): > The immediate explanation is the substantial eastward jog created by Suisun and Grizzly Bay. This would follow from 33 CFR 2.20, defining the territorial sea baseline, following the Convention on the Territorial Sea and the Contiguous Zone. The zone would fall just short of Lake Tahoe. It's based on tidal waters, see 33 CFR 329.12 for similar definition of the US baseline in terms of waterbodies subject to tidal action. 33 CFR 329.12 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/33/329.12 https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/33/329.12) says: > (b) Bays and estuaries. Regulatory jurisdiction extends to the entire surface and bed of all waterbodies subject to tidal action. Jurisdiction thus extends to the edge (as determined by paragraph (a)(2) of this section) of all such waterbodies, even though portions of the waterbody may be extremely shallow, or obstructed by shoals, vegetation, or other barriers. Marshlands and similar areas are thus considered “navigable in law,” but only so far as the area is subject to inundation by the mean high waters.
refurb 3y ago
They need a warrant to search any device if you’re not crossing said border. It’s not the same.

jfoutz 3y ago

Does that apply to international airports?

Tostino 3y ago

A.k.a pretty much the entire state of FL.

loeg 3y ago
Something like 200 million Americans live in this zone near a border.
- patmorgan23 3y ago
  And the population of the US is approx 330 million

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Avshalom 3y ago

"international airports" also count as borders

bumbledraven 3y ago
Not for the purpose of the 100 mile border zone rule, apparently.

bumbledraven 3y ago

Interesting. I was wondering why the 100 mile border zone extends acoss California almost all the way to Reno, Nevada, and I found this (https://law.stackexchange.com/a/43233 https://law.stackexchange.com/a/43233): > The immediate explanation is the substantial eastward jog created by Suisun and Grizzly Bay. This would follow from 33 CFR 2.20, defining the territorial sea baseline, following the Convention on the Territorial Sea and the Contiguous Zone. The zone would fall just short of Lake Tahoe. It's based on tidal waters, see 33 CFR 329.12 for similar definition of the US baseline in terms of waterbodies subject to tidal action. 33 CFR 329.12 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/33/329.12 https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/33/329.12) says: > (b) Bays and estuaries. Regulatory jurisdiction extends to the entire surface and bed of all waterbodies subject to tidal action. Jurisdiction thus extends to the edge (as determined by paragraph (a)(2) of this section) of all such waterbodies, even though portions of the waterbody may be extremely shallow, or obstructed by shoals, vegetation, or other barriers. Marshlands and similar areas are thus considered “navigable in law,” but only so far as the area is subject to inundation by the mean high waters.

refurb 3y ago

They need a warrant to search any device if you’re not crossing said border. It’s not the same.