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So, they're claiming this statement is true: > The U.S. does not have a national privacy law addressing how companies can use the data they collect when it is

by hedora 3y ago

So, they're claiming this statement is true: > The U.S. does not have a national privacy law addressing how companies can use the data they collect when it is clearly false. I only need one counter-example, so here's one: HIPPA exists, and addresses how [some] companies can use [some of] the data they collect. Also, when overturning Roe v. Wade, the supreme court ruled that there is no federal right to privacy in the US, which impacted a wide range of privacy related federal laws in the US.

jpalawaga 3y ago
HIPPA protects medical records, which isn't so much as 'collected' as much as they are generated (and held) on behalf of the patient. So, I'd say this is a pretty disingenuous reading. They're clearly talking about something more akin to GDPR. Conflating HIPPA (or, say, top secret document classification) is not a productive vector of discussion.
- sidewndr46 3y ago
  Where do you live that you aren't asked your medical history on your first office visit? That is definitely collection.
- philwelch 3y ago
  If a doctor takes my blood pressure or asks about symptoms I’ve experienced, he is collecting data from me and putting it into medical records.
- hedora 3y ago
  OK, what about COPPA, the FCRA, the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, the Privacy Shield Framework, or any of the other stuff this branch of the FTC works on: https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/privacy-security https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/privacy-security We definitely have federal privacy laws. They are inadequate, but that the survey asked if they exist, not if they are sufficient. It doesn't matter what they are talking about in the article, since this is an article about how people responded to the survey question, not about how they responded to the article (before it was even written).
- Ferret7446 3y ago
  That is such a shameless linguistic copout you should feel ashamed. "Generated" my ass, you could argue all digital data is "generated". It sure ain't lying on the streets to be collected by trucks.

by hedora 3y ago

jpalawaga 3y ago

HIPPA protects medical records, which isn't so much as 'collected' as much as they are generated (and held) on behalf of the patient. So, I'd say this is a pretty disingenuous reading. They're clearly talking about something more akin to GDPR. Conflating HIPPA (or, say, top secret document classification) is not a productive vector of discussion.

sidewndr46 3y ago
Where do you live that you aren't asked your medical history on your first office visit? That is definitely collection.
philwelch 3y ago
If a doctor takes my blood pressure or asks about symptoms I’ve experienced, he is collecting data from me and putting it into medical records.
hedora 3y ago
OK, what about COPPA, the FCRA, the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, the Privacy Shield Framework, or any of the other stuff this branch of the FTC works on: https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/privacy-security https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/privacy-security We definitely have federal privacy laws. They are inadequate, but that the survey asked if they exist, not if they are sufficient. It doesn't matter what they are talking about in the article, since this is an article about how people responded to the survey question, not about how they responded to the article (before it was even written).
Ferret7446 3y ago
That is such a shameless linguistic copout you should feel ashamed. "Generated" my ass, you could argue all digital data is "generated". It sure ain't lying on the streets to be collected by trucks.