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What do you want to do, ressurect Guy Fawkes? Put a destroy the world switch in IT infrastructure? Kidnap Sundar wife's dog? Inspection triggered ransomware a'l

by petre 3y ago

What do you want to do, ressurect Guy Fawkes? Put a destroy the world switch in IT infrastructure? Kidnap Sundar wife's dog? Inspection triggered ransomware a'la Heisenberg? I have a better idea: serve the spooks loads of ads and The Daily Mail headlines.

gambiting 3y ago
All I want is my friends and colleagues to say "I care about my privacy and it bothers me that the government is trying to destroy my right to private communication with others" - not "meh, what are you going to do" or worse "what, you've got something to hide?".
- varispeed 3y ago
  > or worse "what, you've got something to hide?". It's ironic that people use that Nazi phrase when it comes to actions of Tory government (and their faction called National Conservatives often use moniker Nat-C - try to say it loud...).
- petre 3y ago
  That won't change anything and it will only get worse with Russia's invasion of Ukraine. They don't want to catch pedophiles primarily, but instead shut down Russian propaganda channels, dissidents and whoever is otherwise a nuisance for 10 Downing Street. Back in 2010 it was the terrorists, then it was pedophiles, now it's basically the Russians, as the anti vaxxers were also a ruskii propaganda driven phenomena. But Russia and Ukraine are too far away, hence pedophiles. Your friends and colleages concern themselves with their next paycheck, the mortgage and which pub they'll have a pint at after work. If the government wants to bother with these details they should suit themselves. I'm not saying I support this line of thinking but it is what it is.
  - hilbert42 3y ago
    "Your friends and colleages concern themselves with their next paycheck, the mortgage and which pub they'll have a pint at after work." That's the problem, the overhead of living is difficult and distracting enough that the average person hasn't the time or commitment. In the past, there were fewer issues and lines were less blurred which helped waivers make up their minds. Remember, distracting the masses isn't new, Emperor Vespasian built the Colosseum to distract Rome's population from troubles—grain shortages, etc.
hilbert42 3y ago
"What do you want to do, ressurect Guy Fawkes?" That's never worked and generally made things worse. We don't need to go back to Fawkes, the recriminations in the aftermath of the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich says it all: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Reinhard_Heydrich https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Reinhard_He...

by petre 3y ago

gambiting 3y ago

All I want is my friends and colleagues to say "I care about my privacy and it bothers me that the government is trying to destroy my right to private communication with others" - not "meh, what are you going to do" or worse "what, you've got something to hide?".

varispeed 3y ago
> or worse "what, you've got something to hide?". It's ironic that people use that Nazi phrase when it comes to actions of Tory government (and their faction called National Conservatives often use moniker Nat-C - try to say it loud...).
petre 3y ago
That won't change anything and it will only get worse with Russia's invasion of Ukraine. They don't want to catch pedophiles primarily, but instead shut down Russian propaganda channels, dissidents and whoever is otherwise a nuisance for 10 Downing Street. Back in 2010 it was the terrorists, then it was pedophiles, now it's basically the Russians, as the anti vaxxers were also a ruskii propaganda driven phenomena. But Russia and Ukraine are too far away, hence pedophiles. Your friends and colleages concern themselves with their next paycheck, the mortgage and which pub they'll have a pint at after work. If the government wants to bother with these details they should suit themselves. I'm not saying I support this line of thinking but it is what it is.
- hilbert42 3y ago
  "Your friends and colleages concern themselves with their next paycheck, the mortgage and which pub they'll have a pint at after work." That's the problem, the overhead of living is difficult and distracting enough that the average person hasn't the time or commitment. In the past, there were fewer issues and lines were less blurred which helped waivers make up their minds. Remember, distracting the masses isn't new, Emperor Vespasian built the Colosseum to distract Rome's population from troubles—grain shortages, etc.

hilbert42 3y ago

"What do you want to do, ressurect Guy Fawkes?" That's never worked and generally made things worse. We don't need to go back to Fawkes, the recriminations in the aftermath of the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich says it all: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Reinhard_Heydrich https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Reinhard_He...