Nothing in there I disagree with, my disagreement was mostly over the 'largely'/monocausal suggestion of your original comment - migration definitely is a big p

Nothing in there I disagree with, my disagreement was mostly over the 'largely'/monocausal suggestion of your original comment - migration definitely is a big part of the story of the modern urban Democratic party. What's interesting is that one of the articles linked indicates that this Democratic shift has been substantial even among people who have generationally been in the same city for a long time. I don't think this really undercuts migration as a massive effect, but indicates the impact of your neighbors as well as perhaps some realignment of the Democrats towards industrial policy that benefited people in the cities. > Thanks for taking the time to thoroughly read these (and in more detail than I did! Quickly skimming articles to see if they hold up is a skill learned from years of highschool debate, only a minute or two to prepare to respond to your opponents arguments Likewise thanks for the discussion :)