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There just needs to be a gamemode which makes the game more about base defense and resource usage in defending the base. Currently you can just spam lasers and

There just needs to be a gamemode which makes the game more about base defense and resource usage in defending the base. Currently you can just spam lasers and win no problem. Imagine something like 7 days of constant biter attacks on all fronts, with biters much stronger as well. A relentless strain on the economy of your base more than anything, with there being a real need for repair bots to fully repair and remake certain sections of the perimeter as it gets destroyed by perhaps some special baneling-esque biter. Add to this the idea that things get infinitely more and more difficult over time, and you instead compete for places on a leaderboard of like "survived 400 days and 14 hours".

c7DJTLrn 3y ago
I've always craved something like this too. Of course, you can crank the biter difficulty, but you only get two outcomes: it's too hard and you can never build a base that lasts more than an hour, or you manage to arm yourself from the beginning and biters stop being a problem very quickly. I'd really like biters to be a threat I need to pay some attention to for the duration of the game. Evolution isn't really a factor because as you say, once you have laser turrets, you're set. Even red bullets suffice.
politician 3y ago
You're looking for the Warptorio2 mod. "Build your base on a platform that warps from planet to planet and escape biters before they overwhelm you." https://mods.factorio.com/mod/warptorio2 https://mods.factorio.com/mod/warptorio2
chienandalou 3y ago
Sounds a bit like the Wave Defense scenario. It is available within the game: https://wiki.factorio.com/Wave_defense https://wiki.factorio.com/Wave_defense
rollcat 3y ago
Try a deathworld then. Once you're comfortable defending until you can secure flamethrowers, you can add in some mods that slightly extend or complicate the early/mid game (like AAI industries and/or Krastorio2). Especially with K2, you get some new options for controlling your pollution (planting trees, running greenhouses, air filters...), and in the endgame you get the tech that enables fully self-sustaining bases. I think all of these are interesting alternatives to the endless expansion and the sudden, rapid power spike of the base game.

c7DJTLrn 3y ago

I've always craved something like this too. Of course, you can crank the biter difficulty, but you only get two outcomes: it's too hard and you can never build a base that lasts more than an hour, or you manage to arm yourself from the beginning and biters stop being a problem very quickly. I'd really like biters to be a threat I need to pay some attention to for the duration of the game. Evolution isn't really a factor because as you say, once you have laser turrets, you're set. Even red bullets suffice.

politician 3y ago

You're looking for the Warptorio2 mod. "Build your base on a platform that warps from planet to planet and escape biters before they overwhelm you." https://mods.factorio.com/mod/warptorio2 https://mods.factorio.com/mod/warptorio2

chienandalou 3y ago

Sounds a bit like the Wave Defense scenario. It is available within the game: https://wiki.factorio.com/Wave_defense https://wiki.factorio.com/Wave_defense

rollcat 3y ago

Try a deathworld then. Once you're comfortable defending until you can secure flamethrowers, you can add in some mods that slightly extend or complicate the early/mid game (like AAI industries and/or Krastorio2). Especially with K2, you get some new options for controlling your pollution (planting trees, running greenhouses, air filters...), and in the endgame you get the tech that enables fully self-sustaining bases. I think all of these are interesting alternatives to the endless expansion and the sudden, rapid power spike of the base game.