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What do you mean "no reason"? The reason is that the user's data privacy rights come first. If interests collide, privacy must come out on top. I'm curious on

What do you mean "no reason"? The reason is that the user's data privacy rights come first. If interests collide, privacy must come out on top. I'm curious on how you could have missed this ideological position that powers those regulations after years of headlines after headlines about the topic.

seydor 3y ago
europeans did not go to the streets because they were afraid of advertising. politicians ran with it because it sounds good instead they go to the streets because of the awful economy, unemployment, inaccessible housing. Still waiting for a pan-european affordable housing regulation (not gonna happen because EU is run by the boomers)
- EMIRELADERO 3y ago
  Housing is a local, or at least federal matter. EU is about interstate commerce. The advertising/consent regulations are about commerce so it makes sense. Pan-EU housing regulations wouldn't as those are typically in the domain of each country/locality.
  - seydor 3y ago
    eu already affects the housing market with green regulations and housing standards, energy standards, policy on residence visas etc. and communications was not among its mandates either
- everdrive 3y ago
  You’re really not in a position to speak for all Europeans. You’re painting a complex issue with a broad brush, and of course painting it in such a way that it supports your position.
  - seydor 3y ago
    You don't want to go there. EU is not in position to speak about all Europeans either.
    - LelouBil 3y ago
      The European parliament is made of deputees elected from each European countries, so why would it not be ?
sib 3y ago
If that's all it were, then the trade would be "you can get this [free like beer] service if you agree to give up some personal data, otherwise you don't get the service." As it is, the law says "You, company, must give users a service for free even if they choose not to give you the data."
- EMIRELADERO 3y ago
  That's akin to taking a law prohibiting the (voluntary) sale of organs to mean that everything's free now. Some things are above the concept of "market". Personal data is one of those things. That's the ideology behind these laws.
  - sib 3y ago
    "Personal data is one of those things" - disagree. When people say "Google isn't free, they provide it in exchange for your data" that is precisely saying that there's a market and a trade involved. You may not like that trade, in which case, don't use Google services...
    - EMIRELADERO 3y ago
      The mere factual existence of a trade/market does not imply governmental or societal acceptance of that market. Going back to the organ example, if you search deep enough you can probably find sites and examples of people willingly trading their own organs for vast amounts of money. Yet that doesn't stop the practice from being illegal, and in most of society's view, reprehensible. Governments exist, in part, for that reason.

seydor 3y ago

europeans did not go to the streets because they were afraid of advertising. politicians ran with it because it sounds good instead they go to the streets because of the awful economy, unemployment, inaccessible housing. Still waiting for a pan-european affordable housing regulation (not gonna happen because EU is run by the boomers)

EMIRELADERO 3y ago
Housing is a local, or at least federal matter. EU is about interstate commerce. The advertising/consent regulations are about commerce so it makes sense. Pan-EU housing regulations wouldn't as those are typically in the domain of each country/locality.
- seydor 3y ago
  eu already affects the housing market with green regulations and housing standards, energy standards, policy on residence visas etc. and communications was not among its mandates either
everdrive 3y ago
You’re really not in a position to speak for all Europeans. You’re painting a complex issue with a broad brush, and of course painting it in such a way that it supports your position.
- seydor 3y ago
  You don't want to go there. EU is not in position to speak about all Europeans either.
  - LelouBil 3y ago
    The European parliament is made of deputees elected from each European countries, so why would it not be ?

sib 3y ago

If that's all it were, then the trade would be "you can get this [free like beer] service if you agree to give up some personal data, otherwise you don't get the service." As it is, the law says "You, company, must give users a service for free even if they choose not to give you the data."

EMIRELADERO 3y ago
That's akin to taking a law prohibiting the (voluntary) sale of organs to mean that everything's free now. Some things are above the concept of "market". Personal data is one of those things. That's the ideology behind these laws.
- sib 3y ago
  "Personal data is one of those things" - disagree. When people say "Google isn't free, they provide it in exchange for your data" that is precisely saying that there's a market and a trade involved. You may not like that trade, in which case, don't use Google services...
  - EMIRELADERO 3y ago
    The mere factual existence of a trade/market does not imply governmental or societal acceptance of that market. Going back to the organ example, if you search deep enough you can probably find sites and examples of people willingly trading their own organs for vast amounts of money. Yet that doesn't stop the practice from being illegal, and in most of society's view, reprehensible. Governments exist, in part, for that reason.