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The UI reminds me of RISC OS!

by trollied 3y ago

azinman2 3y ago
It’s a pretty clear rip of macOS, from the aqua-inspired UI, finder at base, to the layout of the directories.
- danjoredd 3y ago
  I mean, the directories are laid out in the same way because MacOS runs on top of BSD. They basically ARE the same file system. I agree on the rest of your points though.
lproven 3y ago
Allegedly, one of the Acorn OS developers quit and went to work for NeXT in Silicon Valley... and right afterwards, the test in-development version of NeXTstep suddenly had this Acorn Risc OS-like floating icon bar! NeXT also implemented app directories, where all the contents of an app, its resources and libraries and so on, are in a folder with a special magic name... another idea nicked from Acorn. (Risc OS apps are called !Name; NeXTstep ones are called Name.app.) Acorn Risc OS was also the first OS to have integrated, always-on font antialiasing, next seen in NeXTstep, and the first to have full-window drag. Source: a retrospective meetup of the surviving developers, which I moderated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_SDL0IwbCc&t=2s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_SDL0IwbCc&t=2s
- deleted 3y ago
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- superq 3y ago
  somewhat related to the directories: https://www.macdisk.com/macforken.php https://www.macdisk.com/macforken.php
  - lproven 3y ago
    Not really... that's a Classic MacOS thing, not anything in NeXTstep, OpenStep or OS X, although OS X respects and preserves them. Perhaps the closer correspondence is file metadata. For all that Risc OS is based on Acorn MOS, an OS that's as old or older than MS-DOS, it stores richer metadata: for instance, files have a Creator Type which is 3 hex digits. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RISC_OS_filetypes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RISC_OS_filetypes This can't be stored on DOS filesystems. So, just like Classic MacOS files with their 2 forks, to keep Risc OS files on DOS media without damaging them, they must be packed inside a Zip file or something like that -- and using a RiscOS (or MacOS) native Zip program that stores, and recreates, the metadata. (Linux used to do something vaguely similar with the `umsdos` filesystem.) DOS/Windows PC owners, who think the universe revolves around them, never could get the hang of this.
- spookie 3y ago
  Oh, interesting!

The UI reminds me of RISC OS!

azinman2 3y ago

It’s a pretty clear rip of macOS, from the aqua-inspired UI, finder at base, to the layout of the directories.

danjoredd 3y ago
I mean, the directories are laid out in the same way because MacOS runs on top of BSD. They basically ARE the same file system. I agree on the rest of your points though.

lproven 3y ago

Allegedly, one of the Acorn OS developers quit and went to work for NeXT in Silicon Valley... and right afterwards, the test in-development version of NeXTstep suddenly had this Acorn Risc OS-like floating icon bar! NeXT also implemented app directories, where all the contents of an app, its resources and libraries and so on, are in a folder with a special magic name... another idea nicked from Acorn. (Risc OS apps are called !Name; NeXTstep ones are called Name.app.) Acorn Risc OS was also the first OS to have integrated, always-on font antialiasing, next seen in NeXTstep, and the first to have full-window drag. Source: a retrospective meetup of the surviving developers, which I moderated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_SDL0IwbCc&t=2s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_SDL0IwbCc&t=2s

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superq 3y ago
somewhat related to the directories: https://www.macdisk.com/macforken.php https://www.macdisk.com/macforken.php
- lproven 3y ago
  Not really... that's a Classic MacOS thing, not anything in NeXTstep, OpenStep or OS X, although OS X respects and preserves them. Perhaps the closer correspondence is file metadata. For all that Risc OS is based on Acorn MOS, an OS that's as old or older than MS-DOS, it stores richer metadata: for instance, files have a Creator Type which is 3 hex digits. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RISC_OS_filetypes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RISC_OS_filetypes This can't be stored on DOS filesystems. So, just like Classic MacOS files with their 2 forks, to keep Risc OS files on DOS media without damaging them, they must be packed inside a Zip file or something like that -- and using a RiscOS (or MacOS) native Zip program that stores, and recreates, the metadata. (Linux used to do something vaguely similar with the `umsdos` filesystem.) DOS/Windows PC owners, who think the universe revolves around them, never could get the hang of this.
spookie 3y ago
Oh, interesting!