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404's growth hackers making waves right out of the gate. This media company was launched like a month ago and they're already taking the spotlight by doing cen
by VoodooJuJu 3y ago
404's growth hackers making waves right out of the gate.
This media company was launched like a month ago and they're already taking the spotlight by doing censor-worthy or ban-worthy stuff.
Take notes. This is how it's done these days. You want attention? You want to grow your anything? Start fights, call names, and make sure you get kicked out, censored. It's like the Streisand Effect or something.
- sbarre 3y agoSpeaking truth to power has always been a cornerstone of journalism, so I don't know that I would attribute this to growth hacking (although this is HN so I guess the startup distortion lens is always on). They are writing and publishing compelling investigative content, I think that's why they are getting the traction they have (plus the team has a proven track record from previous work).
- 93po 3y agoIt is rare for journalism to go against the interests of the powerful since it’s overwhelmingly owned by the powerful
- sbarre 3y agoI suspect you are relatively young? Because this concentration of ownership of news and journalism into fewer and fewer hands is a new-ish thing, at least in the last few decades. So on the timeline of journalism, it is not rare for this to happen, it's just increasingly rare in recent times. And I think a correction is coming, with for example this kind of more independent and self-funded projects.
- smegger001 3y agoIt not a new thing. Ever heard of William Randolph Hearst, and Hearst Communications? He was the Murdoch of his day fucking with politics, fake news supporting far right leaders and everything.
- 93po 3y agoPlease tell me how far back into history we have to go until the majority of news consumed by people was not from an organization owned by someone wealthy. Hint: it’s before the printing press
- sbarre 3y agoI never claimed what you are asking me to refute. As I did say, it has been getting worse and more concentrated in the last few decades. And I guess combined with the loss of commercial viability of local news due to the Internet, a point I didn't include but is certainly relevant.
- FredPret 3y agoGet arrested and post your mugshot!
- AndrewKemendo 3y agoIt's not a new strategy Edison literally electrocuted a horse with AC to promote it as a preferred power source for electric chairs[1] [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_currents#Associating_AC_and_Westinghouse_with_the_electric_chair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_currents#Associatin...
- 0xEF 3y agoNot Edison, but someone who asked to use his facility. I also believe this test was conducted less for shock & awe, and more for finding a way to quickly kill a death-row inmate. The previous attempts were inhumane, to say the least, and keep in mind there was considerable debate over the death penalty at the time. I would guess having a "no, this will kill the person quick" solution instead of a "well, it might maim them, or make them suffer a lot longer as they die" solution makes it easier to sell the death penalty to some of it's opposition. A 'cleaner death' is preferable, I'd imagine. Just my two cents, though, but as we look back on these types of moments in history, it is easy to skew the accepted values of the time and write them off as barbaric.
- BizarroLand 3y agoDC will kill you also, but more in the "having a hot electric knife pushed into you" way instead of the "shakes you so fast you blackout and die" way that AC does.
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- hn1986 3y agoThey have people from Vice Media. They've always done this too