> The certificates provide no security Uh... it guarantees that the entity you're communicating with is the one with control over the web server you're trying

> The certificates provide no security Uh... it guarantees that the entity you're communicating with is the one with control over the web server you're trying to access. The points about HTTP are worthless. Everyone's web traffic should be E2EE for everything. I don't understand someone arguing that it should be possible to spy on other people on your network.