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I enjoyed Shapez, and it's cool that it has many mods, but I just found it too abstract and sterile to keep my attention. Factorio just much more engaging for

I enjoyed Shapez, and it's cool that it has many mods, but I just found it too abstract and sterile to keep my attention. Factorio just much more engaging for me in the long run, especially with mods.

II2II 3y ago
I took a quick look at Shapez. It may end up being addictive (to me) when Factorio was not. The reason being that Factorio's world is a bit dystopian in my view. A good game, but I like more cheerful things in my life. The abstraction of Shapez and the upbeat music seem to accomplish that.
hiatus 3y ago
Yeah among other things that caused me to abandon it, there is no relationship between expansion and neighbor aggression or any other external pressures (though maybe I did not progress far enough to encounter those elements if they exist).
epiccoleman 3y ago
I love Shapez overall, and the Shapez Industries mod is a great way to breathe new life into it, but I tend to find that I run out of interest before the "endgame". As annoying as the Factorio biters are, they do provide a little bit of pressure that keeps you wanting to research new things and continue building. (They also inspire a burning hatred that will drive you to research and implement ever more efficient methods of murdering them). The same goes for the limitedness of Factorio resources patches. In Shapez the logistics that come with expansion and defense don't exist, so it winds up feeling sorta samey. I like the chill, relaxing vibe of Shapez but eventually felt like I was just doing the same things over and over with slight variations. Also, the lack of a blueprint book in Shapez is a major drag. I ended up setting a map marker way the hell out which lets me "teleport" to an area where I copy/paste designs from, but that's pretty hacky and ruins some of the flow state that Shapez lets you cultivate. All that said, I've been following the dev of Shapez 2 and at least visually it looks awesome, so I'll definitely be hopping into that at some point.
- pmoriarty 3y ago
  I turn off biters in most of my playthroughs, and set all my resources up to 200%, and I still much prefer Factorio played this way to Shapez. Shapez was fun for a handful of hours, but I really don't see myself spending hundreds, nevermind thousands of hours on it like I have on Factorio.
- donatj 3y ago
  I never really found the biters that much of a deterrent. As soon as you get the laser turrets and flying robots that automatically repair your base, you basically never need to think about the biters again.
  - epiccoleman 3y ago
    That's true, but if you don't have a burning passion for their extermination by that point in the game you're a more forgiving being than me.

II2II 3y ago

I took a quick look at Shapez. It may end up being addictive (to me) when Factorio was not. The reason being that Factorio's world is a bit dystopian in my view. A good game, but I like more cheerful things in my life. The abstraction of Shapez and the upbeat music seem to accomplish that.

hiatus 3y ago

Yeah among other things that caused me to abandon it, there is no relationship between expansion and neighbor aggression or any other external pressures (though maybe I did not progress far enough to encounter those elements if they exist).

epiccoleman 3y ago

I love Shapez overall, and the Shapez Industries mod is a great way to breathe new life into it, but I tend to find that I run out of interest before the "endgame". As annoying as the Factorio biters are, they do provide a little bit of pressure that keeps you wanting to research new things and continue building. (They also inspire a burning hatred that will drive you to research and implement ever more efficient methods of murdering them). The same goes for the limitedness of Factorio resources patches. In Shapez the logistics that come with expansion and defense don't exist, so it winds up feeling sorta samey. I like the chill, relaxing vibe of Shapez but eventually felt like I was just doing the same things over and over with slight variations. Also, the lack of a blueprint book in Shapez is a major drag. I ended up setting a map marker way the hell out which lets me "teleport" to an area where I copy/paste designs from, but that's pretty hacky and ruins some of the flow state that Shapez lets you cultivate. All that said, I've been following the dev of Shapez 2 and at least visually it looks awesome, so I'll definitely be hopping into that at some point.

pmoriarty 3y ago
I turn off biters in most of my playthroughs, and set all my resources up to 200%, and I still much prefer Factorio played this way to Shapez. Shapez was fun for a handful of hours, but I really don't see myself spending hundreds, nevermind thousands of hours on it like I have on Factorio.
donatj 3y ago
I never really found the biters that much of a deterrent. As soon as you get the laser turrets and flying robots that automatically repair your base, you basically never need to think about the biters again.
- epiccoleman 3y ago
  That's true, but if you don't have a burning passion for their extermination by that point in the game you're a more forgiving being than me.