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Or, we could just pay semiconductor work for what it is, producing the most advanced technology on the planet. $250,000 in 2023 dollars is about what my father
by K0balt 3y ago
Or, we could just pay semiconductor work for what it is, producing the most advanced technology on the planet.
$250,000 in 2023 dollars is about what my father made as a power lineman in 1970, at $15 an hour.
It was a well paid, union trade. But we need to put this in perspective. People don’t want to work for less than a blue collar job was worth in the 70s.
Housing prices (on average) are not that high, wages are ridiculously low in real terms.
The average home price in 2023 is about 350,000 in the USA, about 44,000 in 1970s dollars. That’s 1.5-3 years wages as a journeyman tradesman in 1970s dollars, if she were paying the cash equivalent of 350k for a house.
Of course housing was both typically smaller and much more cheaply built in 1970, and for 350k today you are getting twice the square footage, and a much higher quality structure.
Since an average home in 1970 would have been around half the size and 1/3 the price in inflation adjusted dollars, I think it’s safe to say that the thing that has changed here is primarily that wages are simply not enough to incentivise workers.
Any skilled job that doesn’t pay at least 250k is simply not worth investing the time and effort to get the skills for.
COVID gave people a chance to step back and value their time, interrupting the zombie death march toward slave wages. Now capital needs to readjust its expectations of how much they will have to pay to extract 90 percent of the surplus value of a persons life.
- jen20 3y ago> Of course housing was both typically smaller and much more cheaply built in 1970 My experience (Texas) is that homes built today might be larger but are FAR worse quality than ones even built in the 90s, let alone the 70s or (heaven forbid) the 20s. In England the same was true but on a much more extreme curve, and without being larger.
- K0balt 3y agoInteresting. May be regional I guess. Most of the homes I have been into the bones of in my area that were built in the 1970s were pretty crap. But then again in my area the 1970s was a big boom time, with a ton of new construction. Mostly 2x4 and 2x6 construction, with cheap sheathing and a bad subfloor. Anything built here in the 2000s will be 2x10 or 2x12 walls, double insulated sheathing, with triple pane windows and high r value doors, and with a floor you can confidently lay tile on.