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By the time AIs stop hallucinating, it will be effectively super human (i.e. much better) because humans hallucinate all the time. And some people are barely co
by jillesvangurp 3y ago
By the time AIs stop hallucinating, it will be effectively super human (i.e. much better) because humans hallucinate all the time. And some people are barely coherent. We're holding AIs to a much higher standard than ourselves. And we move the goal posts all the time as well.
Let's deconstruct that title. "AI isn't good enough". Good enough for what? Great example of moving the goal posts. Because anytime it fails to do whatever, it's not good enough. But what about all the stuff it is good enough for that people are actually using it for already? It's passing tests at a level most humans only manage very briefly after lots of intensive preparation. The knowledge slips away quickly after that.
The way I see it, there's a long, rapidly growing list of stuff that AIs have nailed already and a list of things where it is clearly struggling. That list is shrinking.
Self driving gets cited a lot as something where AIs is failing. It's hard to say that in a world where multiple companies are now operating self driving vehicles commercially in several cities across the US, China, and soon Europe. Are they perfect? No. Do they drive better than the average jerk on the road? Definitely; not even close. Most people simply suck at driving. That's why traffic deaths are so common. Most of those deaths are caused by somebody with a drivers license proving that they shouldn't have received one. Not quite a solved problem but at this point the question of when these things will be on the road in my city is more a matter of when than if. It already works in other cities. I don't see what's so special in mine that it couldn't be replicated here. In other words, I expect the number of cities with autonomous vehicles to start exploding over the next few years. And who knows, Tesla might hit the good enough mark at some point as well. Again, the barrier is very low because humans aren't held to the same standards. They'll give drivers licenses to just about anyone.
- ChatGTP 3y ago"Guy calls humans flawed why claiming the same flawed species will build superhuman intelligence...", pretty good for a bunch of dumb LLMs in "meat bags"...
- arrow7000 3y agoYou're pointing out the best that humanity is capable of. He's pointing out that people judge LLMs by their worst performances. You're not disagreeing with the parent comment.
- idopmstuff 3y agoHumans have repeatedly built things that are beyond their own physical and intellectual capabilities. A calculator can do math problems much more quickly than any human being.
- chongli 3y agoA calculator can do arithmetic faster than a human being. How well would a calculator do at proving Fermat’s Last Theorem?
- idopmstuff 3y agoNot well! But that's in no way relevant to the point, which is that we are demonstrably capable of creating machines that can perform tasks of intelligence that we cannot.
- chongli 3y agoSure, though that really began with the abacus. A skilled abacus user can perform calculations faster than most people can with a calculator. They practice until it's all muscle memory. I think this demonstrates that there's actually very little intelligence involved in arithmetic.
- dr_hooo 3y agoSure, but how would the average guy fare at the same task?
- chongli 3y agoIs GPT 4 the "average AI"?
- ngngngng 3y agoWe've yet to build a single machine that is intellectually capable beyond our own understanding.