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Not understanding the basic idea of "{I, a loved one} is hungry; I will steal to feed {myself, them}" is an amazing thing to me. I am so glad people exist who

by berbec 3y ago

Not understanding the basic idea of "{I, a loved one} is hungry; I will steal to feed {myself, them}" is an amazing thing to me. I am so glad people exist who can't understand this thinking. Not because of any moral idealism about "stealing is wrong", but the fact the person thinking this has obviously never been in a place where the options were "stealing" or "starvation". Not to go Les Mis, but it is an easy choice for me if my wife was hungry, to go out and steal some bread.

prepend 3y ago
> Not to go Les Mis, but it is an easy choice for me if my wife was hungry, to go out and steal some bread. It’s nice you have such certainty. If you were actually starving and wanted to get food for your wife, there are more efficient methods than stealing. It’s funny that you assume that people don’t know starving or stealing. If it’s obvious to you then you need to rethink your reasoning as while you may find it obvious, you’re wrong as I certainly know both these things. It’s not idealism to say “stealing is wrong.” That’s the law of the land. Of course, this article isn’t about starving people stealing food. It’s about jerks stealing from the dollar store. Maybe they are all starving. Probably they aren’t. If you want to say that it’s ok to steal if you’re starving, then say it. I’m not sure where you live, but I’m fortunate enough that in my city, state, and country we help people who are hungry so they don’t need to steal. If anyone here steals food, I don’t think it’s due to starvation. Other areas may be different, but I’d like to hear people’s basis for thinking starvation is a significant factor for stealing. I feel like you’re taking a hypothetical edge situation “starving people just steal and it’s ok for that” and applying it to a situation where criminals are stealing from the dollar store and increasing prices for people who shop there, who happen to be vulnerable populations including people who are hungry and perhaps even starving.

by berbec 3y ago

prepend 3y ago

> Not to go Les Mis, but it is an easy choice for me if my wife was hungry, to go out and steal some bread. It’s nice you have such certainty. If you were actually starving and wanted to get food for your wife, there are more efficient methods than stealing. It’s funny that you assume that people don’t know starving or stealing. If it’s obvious to you then you need to rethink your reasoning as while you may find it obvious, you’re wrong as I certainly know both these things. It’s not idealism to say “stealing is wrong.” That’s the law of the land. Of course, this article isn’t about starving people stealing food. It’s about jerks stealing from the dollar store. Maybe they are all starving. Probably they aren’t. If you want to say that it’s ok to steal if you’re starving, then say it. I’m not sure where you live, but I’m fortunate enough that in my city, state, and country we help people who are hungry so they don’t need to steal. If anyone here steals food, I don’t think it’s due to starvation. Other areas may be different, but I’d like to hear people’s basis for thinking starvation is a significant factor for stealing. I feel like you’re taking a hypothetical edge situation “starving people just steal and it’s ok for that” and applying it to a situation where criminals are stealing from the dollar store and increasing prices for people who shop there, who happen to be vulnerable populations including people who are hungry and perhaps even starving.