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If Apple doesn't want crap parts being used by repair shops they should sell the parts in the open market, regardless of the shop being in a "repair program", l

If Apple doesn't want crap parts being used by repair shops they should sell the parts in the open market, regardless of the shop being in a "repair program", like every car manufacturer does It's that simple.

realusername 3y ago
> like every car manufacturer does I don't know a single car manufacturer which denies genuine parts with custom fake software errors.
angulardragon03 3y ago
It’s actually not. You can be sure that there will be manufacturers out there who will skimp on quality to make some money at a lower price, and repair shops will buy that stuff to grow their margins. There are plenty of things (e.g. phone cases) that are sold on the open market, but they still get knocked off, and those knockoffs sell because they are cheap.
- raverbashing 3y ago
  > there will be manufacturers out there who will skimp on quality to make some money at a lower price, and repair shops will buy that stuff to grow their margins. This exists already. Apple is denying the consumer to purchase a legitimate Apple part to fix the issue unless they take it to an "Apple authorized repair shop"
  - angulardragon03 3y ago
    This is just completely untrue (definitely in the US): https://support.apple.com/self-service-repair https://support.apple.com/self-service-repair I’ll accept that this doesn’t cover all devices in the last seven years, but it does cover recent devices.
    - raverbashing 3y ago
      Cool, I think this is a recent development, but still, seems to be only for the end user
sbuk 3y ago
Car manufacturers make very few "parts" themselves. Gearboxes, as an example, are often designed and manufactured by companies like ZF[0] or Valeo[1]. They also sell these to the public at (usually significantly) elevated costs. I'm sure this could be done for specific Apple parts, but like the car manufacturers, Apple will want some control over the parts they design. [0] https://www.zf.com/ https://www.zf.com/ [1] https://www.valeo.com https://www.valeo.com
- raverbashing 3y ago
  Exactly. So why can I go into an auto parts shop and buy the original Ford Spark Plug set for my model (which of course is made by an OEM) but not an Apple repair part?

realusername 3y ago

> like every car manufacturer does I don't know a single car manufacturer which denies genuine parts with custom fake software errors.

angulardragon03 3y ago

It’s actually not. You can be sure that there will be manufacturers out there who will skimp on quality to make some money at a lower price, and repair shops will buy that stuff to grow their margins. There are plenty of things (e.g. phone cases) that are sold on the open market, but they still get knocked off, and those knockoffs sell because they are cheap.

raverbashing 3y ago
> there will be manufacturers out there who will skimp on quality to make some money at a lower price, and repair shops will buy that stuff to grow their margins. This exists already. Apple is denying the consumer to purchase a legitimate Apple part to fix the issue unless they take it to an "Apple authorized repair shop"
- angulardragon03 3y ago
  This is just completely untrue (definitely in the US): https://support.apple.com/self-service-repair https://support.apple.com/self-service-repair I’ll accept that this doesn’t cover all devices in the last seven years, but it does cover recent devices.
  - raverbashing 3y ago
    Cool, I think this is a recent development, but still, seems to be only for the end user

sbuk 3y ago

Car manufacturers make very few "parts" themselves. Gearboxes, as an example, are often designed and manufactured by companies like ZF[0] or Valeo[1]. They also sell these to the public at (usually significantly) elevated costs. I'm sure this could be done for specific Apple parts, but like the car manufacturers, Apple will want some control over the parts they design. [0] https://www.zf.com/ https://www.zf.com/ [1] https://www.valeo.com https://www.valeo.com

raverbashing 3y ago
Exactly. So why can I go into an auto parts shop and buy the original Ford Spark Plug set for my model (which of course is made by an OEM) but not an Apple repair part?