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They clearly have talent, I don't understand why they don't make products like Draw.IO or at least something more meaningful and original than a 2000's era desk

They clearly have talent, I don't understand why they don't make products like Draw.IO or at least something more meaningful and original than a 2000's era desktop environment. Based on the docs https://manual.os-js.org/ https://manual.os-js.org/, they clearly have some serious intention. This is what happens when the Wozniak's of the World don't have a Steve to guide them. They do what they want without a clear vision to practicality.

devjab 3y ago
This is going to be a bit unrelated to what you said, but I recommend looking into Mermaid diagrams in your MD files as a replacement for draw.io. It saved us a bunch of time and has given us documentation diagrams that developers actually want to update because they don’t have to spend 9 years aligning lines.
- LudicrousSpeed 3y ago
  This is pretty cool!
quickthrower2 3y ago
I think you are right you need a strategy if aiming for success, riding a wave or what you predict to be a future wave. But now millions of people are open sourcing so there is a fuck load of noise. To the point that I would say you don’t pay a company selling commercial software for the software ad much as you pay to not need to choose between a million free options with scant or bad sales copy and have some proof of customer success.
noduerme 3y ago
>> This is what happens when the Wozniak's of the World Yes, surely this is proof that every talented coder is only useful when serving a preening egomaniac. I mean, who else is gonna handle all the hard work of getting publicity and taking credit for things?
prmoustache 3y ago
This is a pet project, they already have a job. That is the reason.
lelanthran 3y ago
> This is what happens when the Wozniak's of the World don't have a Steve to guide them. They do what they want without a clear vision to practicality. If their goal includes "practicality", then sure, maybe this indicates that they need a guiding hand. But, as far as I can tell with all these types of projects, the goal isn't practicality, so you cannot tell whether or not they need a guiding hand. As far as I can tell, these projects all appear to have made progress towards their goal. In summary, what you think their goal is, is not what their goal is.

devjab 3y ago

This is going to be a bit unrelated to what you said, but I recommend looking into Mermaid diagrams in your MD files as a replacement for draw.io. It saved us a bunch of time and has given us documentation diagrams that developers actually want to update because they don’t have to spend 9 years aligning lines.

LudicrousSpeed 3y ago
This is pretty cool!

quickthrower2 3y ago

I think you are right you need a strategy if aiming for success, riding a wave or what you predict to be a future wave. But now millions of people are open sourcing so there is a fuck load of noise. To the point that I would say you don’t pay a company selling commercial software for the software ad much as you pay to not need to choose between a million free options with scant or bad sales copy and have some proof of customer success.

noduerme 3y ago

>> This is what happens when the Wozniak's of the World Yes, surely this is proof that every talented coder is only useful when serving a preening egomaniac. I mean, who else is gonna handle all the hard work of getting publicity and taking credit for things?

prmoustache 3y ago

This is a pet project, they already have a job. That is the reason.

lelanthran 3y ago

> This is what happens when the Wozniak's of the World don't have a Steve to guide them. They do what they want without a clear vision to practicality. If their goal includes "practicality", then sure, maybe this indicates that they need a guiding hand. But, as far as I can tell with all these types of projects, the goal isn't practicality, so you cannot tell whether or not they need a guiding hand. As far as I can tell, these projects all appear to have made progress towards their goal. In summary, what you think their goal is, is not what their goal is.