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> The crucial thing for me to remember is that it wasn't my fault. I can do whatever I want because 100 companies are responsible for 71% of GHG. It is their fa

by primax 3y ago

> The crucial thing for me to remember is that it wasn't my fault. I can do whatever I want because 100 companies are responsible for 71% of GHG. It is their fault and their shareholders' fault and my behaviour has no effect. Those companies make things that you buy. If you didn't buy them, they wouldn't make them. Ultimately all of this can be drawn back to the consumption of the individual.

boredemployee 3y ago
I wouldnt say they have 100% no fault. I think it's more accurate to say they have _some_ fault AND no choice, because the world was already there, they existence wouldn't change anything and there's nothing one can do to change it (i mean, ordinary people like us). We have marketing, media, teachers, society, manipulating us since we were kids.
inamberclad 3y ago
Many choices are made for us by society. Without going to extraordinary lengths, how should I assure that my life does not produce greenhouse gasses?
- dools 3y ago
  Corporations produce things and are regulated by governments. Both corporations and governments are created and run by people. You too, can be one of those people.
  - buzzerbetrayed 3y ago
    It’s funny to see both you and GP having exactly opposite beliefs, but you’ve both likely done the exact same amount to prevent climate change.
    - dools 3y ago
      Well, I started a company that has the potential to reduce consumption of a range of resources and carbon emmissions.
- primax 3y ago
  Reduce your consumption in general. Make good choices to reduce your emissions footprint. Don't breed. Vote for parties that believe in and act on doing something about climate change.
cced 3y ago
Mkay I’ll think about this the next time I set out to buy my new mega yacht or drop 5.5B on 4 minutes of weightlessness.
marcusverus 3y ago
> If you didn't buy them, they wouldn't make them. This is rhetorical sleight of hand. If "you" don't by them, literally nothing changes, because you constitute some insignificant portion of the market. What you mean is If millions of people didn't buy them, they wouldn't make them., but the parent is one person, not millions of people, and therefore their comment is entirely correct. Here's a handy rule of thumb--if some problem is so intractable or of such a grand scale that you could devote every waking moment of your life to solving it without making a discernable impact, then it is so utterly beyond your control that you should not feel compelled to make non-trivial personal sacrifices when you know damn well that they are utterly meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Vote, donate, and try to enjoy yourself. Or better yet, devote your time and emotional energy to a problem that's actually in your power to address in a meaningful way.

by primax 3y ago

boredemployee 3y ago

I wouldnt say they have 100% no fault. I think it's more accurate to say they have _some_ fault AND no choice, because the world was already there, they existence wouldn't change anything and there's nothing one can do to change it (i mean, ordinary people like us). We have marketing, media, teachers, society, manipulating us since we were kids.

inamberclad 3y ago

Many choices are made for us by society. Without going to extraordinary lengths, how should I assure that my life does not produce greenhouse gasses?

dools 3y ago
Corporations produce things and are regulated by governments. Both corporations and governments are created and run by people. You too, can be one of those people.
- buzzerbetrayed 3y ago
  It’s funny to see both you and GP having exactly opposite beliefs, but you’ve both likely done the exact same amount to prevent climate change.
  - dools 3y ago
    Well, I started a company that has the potential to reduce consumption of a range of resources and carbon emmissions.
primax 3y ago
Reduce your consumption in general. Make good choices to reduce your emissions footprint. Don't breed. Vote for parties that believe in and act on doing something about climate change.

cced 3y ago

Mkay I’ll think about this the next time I set out to buy my new mega yacht or drop 5.5B on 4 minutes of weightlessness.

marcusverus 3y ago

> If you didn't buy them, they wouldn't make them. This is rhetorical sleight of hand. If "you" don't by them, literally nothing changes, because you constitute some insignificant portion of the market. What you mean is If millions of people didn't buy them, they wouldn't make them., but the parent is one person, not millions of people, and therefore their comment is entirely correct. Here's a handy rule of thumb--if some problem is so intractable or of such a grand scale that you could devote every waking moment of your life to solving it without making a discernable impact, then it is so utterly beyond your control that you should not feel compelled to make non-trivial personal sacrifices when you know damn well that they are utterly meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Vote, donate, and try to enjoy yourself. Or better yet, devote your time and emotional energy to a problem that's actually in your power to address in a meaningful way.